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From the Jewish TORAH and TALMUD (which is one of Judaisms Holy Books!).

Shabbath 19:2
They may perform on the Sabbath all things that are needful for circumcision: excision, tearing, sucking [the wound], and putting thereon a bandage and cumin. If this had not been pounded up on the eve of the Sabbath a man may chew it with his teeth and then apply it.

Shabbat 133B
II.1.
A. Suck [out the wound]:
B. Said R. Pappa, "A Surgeon who didn't suck out the wound - that is a source of danger, and we throw him out."
C. So what else is new? Obviously, since we are prepared to desecrate the Sabbath on that account, it is certainly dangerous not to do it!
D. What might you have supposed? That this blood is stored up. So we are informed that it is the result of the wound, and in the status of a bandage and cumin: Just as when one doesn't put on a bandage and cumin, there is danger, so here, too, if one doesn't do it, there is danger.


You REALLY dont want to see the pictures!

2006-06-30 19:30:20 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Shabbat Chapters 18-24
"There are three stages required for the performance of a ritually correct circumcision in Jewish law: the removal of the foreskin; the tearing of the underlying membraene so as to expose the glans completely; and the sucking away of the blood, m'tsitsah." Roger V. Pavey. The Kindest Cut of All. Bognor Regis, W. Sussex: New Horizon. 1981. pp. 87-88.

"The method to be adopted is laid down thus: 'One excises the foreskin, [that is] the entire skin covering the glans, so that the corona is laid bare. Afterwards, one tears with the finger-nail the soft membrane underneath the skin, turning it to the sides until the flesh of the glans appears. Thereafter, one sucks the membrane until the blood is extracted from the [more] remote places, so that no danger [to the infant] may ensue; and any circumciser who does not carry out the sucking procedure is to be removed [from his office].' . . .

2006-06-30 19:31:46 · update #1

The operation itself, then, consists of three distinct acts: the excision of the prepuce; the laceration of the mucous membrane covering the glans; and the sucking of the blood from the interior of the wound." Immanuel Jakobovits. Jewish Medical Ethics: A Comparative and Historical Study of the Jewish Religious Attitude to Medicine and Its Practice. New York: Bloch Publishing Company. 1959. pp. 193-194.

"The baby cried, blood flowed on to his penis and - as the rabbi had predicted - Graham [the godfather] did not faint. The rabbi then bent over the baby and sucked the wound. I know this sounds awful, but it is part of the Jewish tradition. It's supposed to help the healing." Jack Shamash. "My Son on the Cutting Edge." Independent (London), no. 3,797 (Thursday, December 17, 1998): p. R8.

2006-06-30 19:32:01 · update #2

"And what of the practice of sucking the bleeding penis? While condemning the procedure, some physicians contend that it was used to stop bleeding.47 Not only is there little evidence for this theory, but it was also a largely ineffective method. Furthermore, even in antiquity, surgeons had better methods to stop bleeding, such as pressure, instruments, and medication.48 According to Dr. H. Speert (1953), Maimonides 'staunchly supported this procedure [sucking the bleeding penis] as a prophylactic measure against inflammation.'"49 Edward Wallerstein. Circumcision: An American Health Fallacy. New York: Springer Publishing Company. 1980. p. 160.

2006-06-30 19:32:23 · update #3

"mezizah -- Hebrew term for the third step in the Jewish circumcision ritual, in which the mohel applies his mouth to the freshly circumcised infant's penis and sucks up the first drops of blood. In more recent times this procedure has been carried out via a tube, as infections, venereal disease, and tuberculosis, sometimes resulting in the death of the infant, have occurred due to contamination of the wound. Most Jewish circumcisors today have eliminated this step from the circumcision ritual. Critics have attributed sadistic and homosexual implications to this practice, while defenders claim that this was simply all that was known during ancient times to stop the bleeding." Rosemary Romberg. Circumcision: The Painful Dilemma. South Hadley, Massachusetts: Bergin & Garvey, Publishers, Inc. 1985. p. 395.

2006-06-30 19:32:39 · update #4

"The traditional practice of metzitzah b'peh, which has its roots in the earliest history of the Jewish people and has survived unchanged to the present time, should be viewed with great respect. It is spoken of very positively in the Jewish literature on circumcision both as an essential part of the ritual and as a health measure which prevents infection and promotes healing." Henry C. Romberg, M.D. Bris Milah: A book about the Jewish ritual of circumcision. Jerusalem/New York: Feldheim Publishers. 1982. pp. 57-58.

2006-06-30 19:32:54 · update #5

Heres an article from MSNBC about this sick, disgusting behavior from the jewish rabbis!

Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes
Baby died from disease after undergoing procedure
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6898403/

2006-06-30 19:34:10 · update #6

LMAO 2 Jews down there making up silly excuses as to why this is ok!!!!!

LMAO... Talk about a FILTHY, DISGUSTING, PEDOPHILE LOVING, CULT!! aka judaism!

2006-06-30 20:02:01 · update #7

17 answers

First, this procedure isn't from Torah. Torah is God's word, the books of Moses, aka Genesis through Deuteronomy.
Second, this procedure is tradition, from Talmud, which means its not of God but of men.
Third, before medical science came along to teach how to treat wounds, sucking blood from a wound was one's only choice.

It is truly sad how people will find ANY excuse to persecute the Jews.

2006-06-30 19:56:24 · answer #1 · answered by Reuben Shlomo 4 · 1 1

I'm wondering how caring for a wound inflicted to make the child's life a little easier is pedophilia.
It's not.
And, If you're gonna get into bashing religions, what about the Catholic priests? Somehow, I feel like that is worse than the Jewish forms of medicine after circumcision.
Besides that, In case you didn't know, Christians generally do it too.

2006-07-14 18:40:52 · answer #2 · answered by KylieElenstar 3 · 0 1

The hatred and anti semetism sure come bubbliing to the surface in a hurry.. It does appear there are numerous errors in many of the statements made here, as well as in the responses.
Firstly, look up the ceremony or the Barmitzva...what it is for and what is taking place.
Secondly, your history is in need of replacing.. Israel was ceded by the UN charter and the UK was the European participant to guarantee the land would be available for the Jews.

Unfortunately, facts are deliberately forgone, in much of what has been presented in this diatribe. Or newly formed opinion masking as fact. It has ended up sounding like a neo-nazi group.

2006-07-13 05:09:39 · answer #3 · answered by mrcricket1932 6 · 0 0

what do you get when you squeeze a synagogue?
jewsssss (juice lol)

what do pizza and jews have in common?
they both take about ten minutes in the oven

how many jews fit in a volkswagon?
two in the front, two in the back and a million in the ashtray

just for the record i'd like to state that this is a joke as in ha ha... laugh or I'll gas you with rotten gefilte... . AND this question is obviously a BS conspiratorial, trying to start s&^t question...

REAL Jews are nice people and are not responsible for the fundementalist brouhaha going on in PALESTINE... so the question should be... ATTN fundamentalists creeps... not Jews....

2006-06-30 20:29:47 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Those are probably from the Mishnah, stupid. Show me Shabbat as a book in the Torah. The Torah is the first 5 books of the bible and the Talmud is NOT EVEN the bible.

2006-06-30 19:41:06 · answer #5 · answered by AdamKadmon 7 · 0 0

Circumcision is child abuse whether it is done on males or females whether as a religeous ritual or a medico-social ritual as in the USA. Think of the pain and suffering forced upon a baby or young girl for no valid reason ( hygiene is a nosensical and invalid excuse). It must cause trauma that lasts a lifetime.

2006-07-14 16:49:26 · answer #6 · answered by Vermin 5 · 0 1

Is everybody picking up on the blatant propaganda not only on our President, but as always far in the lead the Jews. We can disagree with the Pres. but I'm sure mocking him assures other regimes we are divided. Also, newsflash to all anti-Sem's,another notch for the Bible for fulfilling a prophesy. Now, want to know what's next?

2006-07-14 18:45:48 · answer #7 · answered by spareo1 4 · 0 1

I was circumcised when i was about 11 for MEDICAL REASONS!!!!! I am not Jewish and my religion (or the one of my parents) had anything to do with it. You can't interpret ancient documents into 21st century western culture. Pedophiliacs are after personal pleasure and sexual gratification, not performing a surgical procedure.

2006-07-14 18:36:27 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Sorry, but I hope and want to believe that our American Jewish citizens can't even began to be able to answer this question. I have met so many wonderful Jewish members of our United States, and can't see any of them involved in this awful and hateful fighting over seas. May God bless everyone in our beautiful United States.

PGBISME

2006-07-14 16:39:24 · answer #9 · answered by PGBISME 3 · 0 0

Show me Shabbat as a book in the Torah

2006-07-14 13:04:16 · answer #10 · answered by Rylan N 1 · 0 0

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