that might have been contradicting to the ideas of some other author. This way you can see how the Bible is tried to be manipulated by some shrewd persons. In that case where remains the authenticity of the Bible, where any body can modify any part of the Bible?
2006-06-30 05:52:55
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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RSV: 7: And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
8: There are three witnesses, the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree.
KJV: 7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8: And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
The RSV made many changes based on what the earliest manuscripts read, whereas many other versions leave in things that were changed or added in later manuscripts. Some scriptures are left out completely because they simply aren't in earlier writings. This should cause Christians to wonder exactly which of the many Bible versions is the "true" version. They are all based on the scholars' opinions of what should be included and how words should be translated. The authors of the KJV did not have access to many of the mss. that scholars now have...that translation, in spite of having the devotion of most Christians, is no more accurate than any other.
2006-06-30 13:02:56
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answer #2
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answered by Antique Silver Buttons 5
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I don't have a RSV, but my American Standard Version moves this verse to 1 John 5:8. It's translated to read "For there are three who bear witness, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and the three agree in one."
That's not a very accurate translation, but there you go. (That's why I don't use the ASV; I stick with KJV/NKJV as much as possible). Perhaps the RSV does the same?
2006-06-30 12:58:04
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answer #3
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answered by Suzanne: YPA 7
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there will be false teaching and this bible have omitied a lot of things that they should not have.....who is behind this... satan and if you read this bible and NIV you will be miss lead...who is behind this??????satan...the only true word of GOD that i have found is in the KING JAMES.dont be miss lead and the reason why you saw this is because GOD wants you to see......He has open your eyes again... HE is so GOOOOOOD. NIV has left out Acts 8:37?????????read the NIV and the KJV and you will see for youself..love suzi
2006-06-30 13:02:16
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answer #4
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answered by Jesus freak 2
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I have a KJV, and my Bible has that verse in it.
my uncle is oneness, and he actually took an ink pen and crossed out things in his bible he thought were bogus. people do stuff like that all the time.
2006-06-30 13:00:25
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answer #5
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answered by cirque de lune 6
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Maybe it was easier to understand then the verse the way that they were going to put it in the bible.
2006-06-30 12:56:42
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answer #6
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answered by frankie 1
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Because certain manuscripts don't contain it. The collection known as Textus Receptus does.
2006-06-30 12:54:20
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answer #7
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answered by RandyGE 5
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(KJV BIBLE)There are 3 that protestants claim about the trinity; they're JOHN 14 & 15 and 1JOHN 5:7. To start out 1JOHN 5:7 was never in any of the inspired Greek manuscripts; so this knocks out one. As for John 14 & 15; the Greek word for "helper" is paracletos; one who helps inwhich points to the Holy spirit. In Greek, the word "He" is neuter such as "hand" is feminine whether it is a woman's hand or male's hand. As for the word "paracletos" it is masculine and always require a masculine pronoun. This however doesn't prove personhood as you've noticed.
But as you've noticed, these texts don't prove Jesus is God or the Holy Spirit.
TRINITY is defined as "A three-fold personality existing in one divine being or substance; the union in one God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three infinite co-equal, co-eternal persons as; one God in three persons."
http://community.webshots.com/photo/370320470/1458599065049373547lCdWDx
Jesus is actually God's son.
I don't believe in the trinity! I don't see how people can when it came from paganism and is unbiblical.
Jesus Christ is not God (he was figuratively God in the Old Testament; the spokesperson for God) = John 1:1.
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/magazine/tw-mag.cgi?category=Magazine3&item=1103832467
Now if Jesus was a trinity (which is unbiblical), that would mean he didn't come fully in the flesh = 1John 4:3.
How can Jesus be God and talk to himself?
The Trinity Doctrine came from paganism.
http://www.cornerstone1.org/trinity1.htm
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=140
http://mikeblume.com/pagantr.htm
Most of the majority(Matt.7:13) leads people away from the Truth.
I don't believe in the TRINITY! The Bible texts that I'm going to mention contradict the Trinity teaching.
MATT.12:32 "AND WHOSOEVER SPEAKETH A WORD AGAINST THE SON OF MAN, IT SHALL BE FORGIVEN HIM: BUT WHOSOEVER SPEAKETH AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST, IT SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN HIM, NEITHER IN THIS WORLD, NEITHER IN THE WORLD TO COME."
JOHN 14:28 "IF YE LOVED ME, YE WOULD REJOICE, BECAUSE I SAID , I GO UNTO THE FATHER: FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I."
1COR.11:3 "BUT I WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW THAT THE HEAD OF EVERY MAN IS CHRIST; & THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN; AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD."
LUKE 18:19 "AND JESUS SAID UNTO HIM, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? NONE IS GOOD, SAVE ONE, THAT IS, GOD."
****SEVERAL OTHER TEXTS SAY THERE'S ONLY TWO PERSONS:
1COR.1:3; 8:6; 1TIM.1:2; 2:5; GAL.1:3; PHILIPP.1:2; ROM.1:7; 2COR.1:2-3; 1THESS.1:1; 2THESS.1:2; 2TIM.1:2; PHILEMON 1:3; 1PETER 1:3; 2PETER 1:2; 1JOHN 1:3; 2JOHN 1:3.
Now touching on the HOLY SPIRIT; the Holy Spirit is a power(Luke 1:35= "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the "Son of God.") where God and Jesus make their presence known in the hearts and minds of believers(1John 3:24 = "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us."). The believers of god and Jesus will have this love poured on them (Rom.5:5 = "And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given to us.") It will teach them understanding and wisdom of God's Word (John 14:16,17,20,23,26 = "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. At that day ye shall know that I am in the Father, and ye in me, and I in you. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.") Jesus had the Holy Spirit in him when he made the lame walk and the deaf to hear and etc.(Luke 5:15-17) God works in our minds to give us stength to overcome (Genesis 6:3 = "And the Lord said, my Spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.") Other texts are: John 7:38-39; Rom.8:11,13-14,16 and Psalm 104:30.
Also why I don't believe in the TRINITY is because it says in the KJV that the false church will cast all the truth to the ground (Daniel 8:12). I happen to know this false church because all the world has followed it (Rev.12:9; 13:3,12) except for one church (Acts 20:28).
2006-06-30 13:04:30
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answered by KNOWBIBLE 5
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That's probably explained in a footnote. Did you look for one?
2006-06-30 13:07:39
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answered by crao_craz 6
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RSV was translated for liberal churches. Almost no one who is serious about Jesus uses it.
2006-06-30 12:59:32
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answered by Anonymous
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