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2006-06-29 10:01:34 · 10 answers · asked by meta-morph-in-oz 3 in Health Mental Health

please goole up the orange papers , sos sobriety,

recovery without god and so, and so forth. thx

2006-06-29 10:13:43 · update #1

the above word should be google.

2006-06-29 10:14:25 · update #2

10 answers

I will say true, but reluctantly. I was once active in a 12-step program that helped me greatly with my addiction issues. But I had other mental health issues as well that a 12-step program could not help me deal with.
I am now no longer in the 12-step program, but am still sober. Have sought treatment/therapy for my other issues, and dealing with them helps me deal with my addiction as well.
The ones "driven to suicide" by 12-step programs are those who need other types of help as well, and sadly, never get that help.

2006-07-01 15:47:30 · answer #1 · answered by frenchy62 7 · 1 0

Wouldn't have answered, but that Boy George answer scared the **** outta me, for your sake. One little known fact is that the # 1 cause of death in a person's first year of sobriety is suicide. Yes, 12 Step programs have helped many people, but they can't or won't help many other people with substance abuse problems. Relying on the principles of a religious conversion, public humiliation, and a variable definition of human worth, they shortchange many of the most fragile people that seek help from them. I wholeheartedly recommend Rational Recovery if you desire to not be chemically dependent, or religiously dependent either. There is a website, as well as books by Jack Trimpey(?). Twelve Steppers will tell you that you cannot get well without them. This is a lie. They will tell you that you are powerless to heal yourself without divine intervention. This is a lie also. If you buy the lies from lack of alternatives, and then subsequently relapse, you will feel yourself to be worthless, at the same time your support system is taken from you. It beggars belief to claim that the 12 Step program is not the primary factor in many of these (otherwise preventable!) suicides.

2006-06-29 15:08:43 · answer #2 · answered by Like An Ibis 3 · 0 0

The Twelve Step programs are indeed a challenge for many suffering from the physically and mentally debilitating effects of substance abuse. I think the program stresses one important point, and that's "One day at a time." Some individuals will undoubtedly move slower through the program at his/her own pace. And, one should never compare his/her progress to another, which leads to feelings of self-doubt, or unecessary competitiveness. I personally feel that the Twelve Step programs are a large part of a recovering substance abuser's treatment, and may in fact prevent suicide, by being a caring, emotional support system for that individual.

2006-06-29 10:10:07 · answer #3 · answered by adjoadjo 6 · 0 0

I think its true because they are very frustrating and are making you exclude some substance or such out of your life. Even though your mind chooses to get help and go thru the 12 steps, your body is thinking that you still need whatever youf fix is so it confuses your emotions as to how you really feel. It leaves a weak minded person alone, deprived, anxious, depressed, unforgiven and like a failure. These emotions do cause suicide at the spur of the moment because some people feel life will not go on and its the end and they just can't go thru with it.

2006-06-29 10:07:09 · answer #4 · answered by so many to choose 3 · 0 0

If it wasn't for the 12 step program many people would have committed suicide. do you even know what the 12 step program is all about? it has help me and many I know! you need to do some reserch on what the 12 step program is really about.

2006-06-29 10:48:05 · answer #5 · answered by boy george 2 · 0 0

a case can be make for true or false. Some may say that it was the program that made them kill themselves and others may say that they were going to kill themselves anyways. I personaly think at it is true.

2006-06-29 10:06:30 · answer #6 · answered by howard 1 · 0 0

Essay Question, what hasn't driven peoplel to suicide yet?

2006-06-29 10:05:58 · answer #7 · answered by D 4 · 0 0

Only the ones where step 12 is "Kill Yourself".

2006-06-29 10:05:31 · answer #8 · answered by david s 4 · 0 0

false,it's the realization of having an addiction and learning that only you can control your own life that makes it sometimes too hard to bear...

2006-06-29 10:05:19 · answer #9 · answered by javabug61 2 · 0 0

true

2006-06-29 10:04:35 · answer #10 · answered by ☆BadNews☆® 4 · 0 0

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