Doesn't the earth itself disprove much of what is written in the bible ?

Question

There are so many established facts about the earth (that even the creationists can deny) that run contrary to what the bible says.

If we were to believe the creationists we should believe that the earth has shrunk to become much smaller than the sun, and has taken to circling the latter, instead of vice versa, as originally established. Furthermore (confirming its sinful nature), it has floated up off its pillars or foundations, lost its four corners, and become a silly ball, on which there just is no possible mountaintop from which one could see all nations of the Earth.

Not to mention those silly clouds that seem to have replaced the "doors" in the firmament that let the rain through.

I wonder how many creationists will claim these are only metaphors. If this is the case, are you allowed to pick and choose which bits of the bible are metaphors and which bits are to be taken literally ?

PLEASE TRY TO STICK TO THE QUESTION AT HAND. TY.

OKY You really are a nasty piece of work. What an awful and hateful thing to say. "Have you stopped beating your wife yet ?" . You really are not a great advertisement for your beliefs are you ? Btw I've watched all of Kent Hovind's lectures. His "science" is so wrong it's funny.

You are nothing but a hateful, naarrow minded bigot. SHAME on you.

Answer 1

Have you stopped beating your wife yet? The way you pose the question is not sincere -- you've already interspersed conjecture. There ARE 4 corners to the earth when you look at the REAL earth from space. They are not sharp 90% angles, but nevertheless, the earth is not perfectly spherical. Check out DrDino.com and watch 28 hours of creation facts. There are far more holes in any other explanation for earth's beginning, just check them out. There were no clouds prior to the flood, it was a canopy of water. Similar, but not the same, Saturn has an ice halo around it. Earth had a complete canopy above it which regulated it temperature perfectly. Much thicker and integral than the ozone layer today. Upon God's judgment, God caused this canopy to colapse, forever altering the tropical paradise type atmosphere which allowed all manner of life to flourish, even at the poles. Animals with fresh produce still undigested have been found at the poles, frozen. Why? So God could be glorified thousands of years later when man would examine such evidence. Chances are God used a huge deep-space frozen comet or asteroid to knock the earth slightly out of a true orbit around the sun, the collision resulting in the collapse of the canopy AND cause the earth to tilt. If it were frozen nitrogen, it would quickly freeze even the largest of animals in the area the debris hit the earth. Keep in mind, God gives answers to the humble and the contrite in spirit, not to the proud.

Answer 2

I think we all take the Bible, and other religiouse writings, too literal.

My favorite example goes straight to creation.
That the world was created in 7 days.
While the focuse has been on the "7 days", perhaps what the bible is explaining is that it took a process, steps, an amount of time for the world to be created.

And I think folks tend to take the bible (get ready to duck and cover) too personally. Like this is the only truth, only this book and nothing else, when in fact, many, if not, most of the religiouse writings are saying the same thing.
For example:
What about Adam and his origions? ell, God created Adam from the soil. In an Native American story (sorry I don't remember which tribe) it explained man being formed from the fleash of an animal.
What do you all think is in the soil? What makes it all so rich and life giving?
The two stories are saying the same thing, just in different ways.

Religion and science should work hand in hand.
But, there should also be the understanding that, what we don't understand doesn't nessesarly mean it doesn't make sense. Just that we, as of yet, lack the knowlage to understand it.
Hey, give us a break! We're still learning! Don't give a preschooler a calaculas exam! (well, there is that odd preschooler... but that's beside the point.)

As a Baha'i and a curiouse little bugger, I whole heartedly believe in the individual search for truth.
And, as I have said many a times, individual search for truth does, on occasion, result in individual point of views &/or interpretation.
Without individual POV and interpretation, what really would there be for any of us anywhere of any religion, nationality, gender.... have to learn?

Question everything.
Never dismiss anything without investigation.
And, always have an open mind.

My P.O.V.

The Chronicler

Answer 3

I easily have an concept. bypass to the places i have been in the middle East. i have seen the tomb of pastime, Moab the position Moses stayed behind, Babel and a cave the position Matthew lived at the same time as he known the Ottoman Catholic faith. per chance the early e book that Moses wrote were metaphors, do not understand, yet i understand what I said and experienced. At pastime's tomb it really is continually foggy and it really is in uncomplicated phrases on that hill. there is an outstanding feeling in the air. Cows stroll as a lot as your face to be petted. Wow Charles, Christians say the Earth is 1000 years previous? Christ died 2000 years in the past. The very last e book of the former testomony become written about four hundred B.C. which may make it 2400 years previous. That become the perfect prophet. all of us understand there have been many extra.

Answer 4

Science looks at the questions of existence & process. Religion looks at the question of purpose. If you're trying to read the Bible as a science book & find out how the earth was formed, you won't get a sensible answer. If you ask science why the earth was formed you won't get an answer either. But if you ask the right questions of the right sources - ask science "How?" and ask the Bible "Why?" you will get some sense.

Answer 5

the world is full of sin all around. that why if you look at the world now it proves the bible wrong. so thats why there is GOD. he provides us with the bible telling us how to live a good life but thats not happening as we sin full people are going againts it. if you have read the bible since the start humans has broken the law of GOD. the craetion of GOD is a wonderfull thing. its so complex that we as human cant really understand. about the mataphors well the bible is a perfect book. we as human dont have the right and power to pick or change anything in it. we should belive in him and follow his words and not go againts it in any way.

Answer 6

what keeps the earth from wondering aimlessly through the solar system? what keep the earth ,sun ,and the moon running like clock work? what makes summer and winter know when to arrive? how do the trees know when to lose their leaves every year? how come there are rivers that dump millions of gal. of water into the oceans everyday but the oceans never get to full? how does all this stuff know what , when and how much , just by chance????? Someone is in control .

Answer 7

There is in fact scientific evidence for creationism (no not from bl**dy Dan Brown books). Creationists claim three points for their arguement. a.) Its mathematically impossible for life to have evolved on Earth the way it did. (My rebuttal to that one was, surely its mathematically impossible for God to exist in that case)
b.) There is evidence of appendages that could not have been anything else: The flaggellum found on some bacteria. (Actually it could have been something else, I just can't remember what.) But I have to certainly agree with you, that it is outrageously convinient that creationists can change the meaning of stories in the bible and way in which it is to be taken. Basically its a load of b**lcks

Answer 8

no, heres why...

this is whats called "metaphorical evidnece". it doesent exactly prove anything. its like saying "see that tree? that tree proves god exists". the reality of the matter is that the tree can pretty much be called the evidence for the existence of anything.

watch...

- see that tree? that tree proves Allah exists!
- see that tree? that tree proves Ganesh exists!
- see that tree? that tree proves Vishnu exists!

depending on your religion it would be true. so unless you can trace the tree back to your god logically (a logical path) then you cant claim it as evidence.

evidence has a path of logic that a person can see (or imagine). simply claiming its evidence isnt enough. you need to show us how.

Answer 9

If you were talking to an ant would you use large confusing language that he wouldn't understand? We are less than ants in apporximation to God. If He told us how everything was done we would not understand it. It is enough to just believe and accept that He knows what He did and is doing.

Answer 10

Ok, if you don't like Kent Hovind... try Ken Ham.. www.answersingenesis.org lots of the same proof here.