Designer Dog Haters?????

Question

Puggles, Labradoodles, Schnoodles, etc. Many people call them expensive mutts, products of illicit backyard breeders and worse.
But I think they are being very hypocritical. Look at the ancestry of two breeds.
Rat Terrier: Fox terrier, old English White terrier, Manchester Terrier, Beagle, Whippet, etc. Gee, the ratty started out as a designer dog? Why the AKC only recoginzed the breed in recent years.

Australian cattle dog was once a designer dog too! Dalmation, Old Smooth coated collie, kelpie, bull terrier, and dingo.

Who's to say that in fifty years the LABRADOODLE won't be an established breed and all the "controversey" will be a thing of the past!

Critics, you are so hypocritcal. Let's hear from the audience on this one, okay? Just curious about the opinions out there in AnswersLand. I have a purebred "mutt" of diverse and unknown ancestry. He's a sweetheart.

Okay, how many dog breeds of today still perform the jobs the specific breeds were created to do?

How many are now just big loveable expensive pets with unusual looks?

Anybody know of daschunds that still hunt badgers for a living? Poodles that still hunt with their humans? Otterdogs that still hunt otters? Hmmmm?

"Git Em Gang" - My pup is 100% pure shelter adopted mutt! Not a designer dog! I only wanted to read people's opnions on the designer dog controversey.

Answer 1

The oodle and poo 'breeders' are NOT working past an F1 breeding. As long as they never work past the F1 stage, it is not possible to have a breed. They cannot have any kind of consistency and there is not even a standard for them.

They could be an established breed someday if the 'breeders' were working toward that, but they are not. Look at the Silken Windhound, that is actually a breed in the making. The breeders are working together towards a common goal called a standard. The breed is breeding true because they went past an F1 a long time ago. THAT is how a breed becomes a breed, not from doing a Poodle X over and over.


But Dachshunds and Poodles ARE hunted as well as field trialed. I take my dogs to field trials and would like to hunt as well. Just because YOU are not out in the field to see it, doesn't mean it isn't done.

If you knew a little bit about breeding, you wouldn't need to be asking this question.

Answer 2

I wasn't terribly angry about it until I saw a Bossie-poo. *That* made me angry... There's no sense in crossing those two particular breeds. Only a personal opinion, and it has no impact on the dog world or the practices of other breeders, so it's a harmless opinion at that... I just thought it was hideous. And I just hope that all other health and temperament issues were taken into account when this breeding occurred. I doubt that happens with all of the people out there breeding "designer" dogs... As long as that is taken into account, and all other responsible breeding practices are followed, as well as having a real intent of creating a new "breed" of dog with a following, then go for it! Lots of work and record-keeping, but it can be done... Some established breeds have been waiting for decades or longer for recognition.

I have my doubts as to whether or not we will ever see a cockapoo or a Bossie-poo (Heaven forbid) in a dog show, but time will tell...

Answer 3

I happen to think that the new designer breeds are nice pets and I love labradoodles they are very intelegent and playful but not too hyper. What is and always will be the controversy is reckless breeders who don't make enough effort to breed the best of the best of their breed instead they just breed oposite genders and hope for the best with $$ in their eyes. I think that there are many purebreed dogs that have been poorly bred so that now for instance most cocker spaniels have skin problems and chronic ear infections, it has just become too common of a problem. Breeders who offer a health guarantee, OFA certification of both parents when knee problems exist in a breed or eye testing of both parents when the breed is known for eye problems, and the breeder needs to educate the new owner on the grooming needs of their new pet, it is expensive to have a labradoodle groomed every 4-6 weeks.

Answer 4

I think you've gotten a lot of great results here. The majority of 'designer' breeders are not what would be called reputable breeders. They breed genetically inferior stock, market it disingeniously and make tons of money from it. Then the pups they promised would be 'hypoallergenic' or non-shedding or have 'hybrid-vigor' turn out to be genetically inferior dogs who don't live up to the buyer's expectations and end up in pounds with other mutts who's owners weren't smart (or decietful) enough to try and sell them for big bucks.

Most people who dislike designer dogs also dislike puppy mills and backyard breeders. I would have no problem with someone trying to create a new breed with purpose and intention beyond making money. If you take genetically superior stock, have a breed standard and breed beyond an F1 mating with the eventual goal of having a group of dogs who could 'breed true' then I would have no issue with that breed. I do however take issue with people who will do/say anything to make a quick buck and the people who are stupid enough to believe they hype.

Answer 5

I just think it is ridiculous to pay for a dog that has a questionable heritage, when you can get the same thing for much cheaper. It is not a bias against the dogs themselves, but against the human nature that makes people think that if it is expensive, it is better. A lot of these dogs are bred by people who have no concept of why they are combining two breeds, but do it because they have a male of one and a female of the other. I personally don't care what kind of dog anyone has as long as it is nice, happy, and doesn't bite me. Other than that, if it makes its family happy, good for them. I just wish that more people would spend $1000 to get a generic mutt from the shelter!

Answer 6

ALot of people in the dog world are very judgemental and snotty. They call themselves "purists"
There are "illicit backyard breeders" for all breeds period.
Just like any breed 'ahem' chihuahua (dont get me wrong, I love them!) we can only hope that people are getting them for the right reasons and not as a fashion accessory.
That being said with thier being so popular I would also hope that people arent over breeding., or the wrong "breeders" are breeding to only make money.
But like I said this happens with all breeds.

I like the labradoodles and the goldendoodles. They are a nice mixture of breeds which is why they are so popular,

People are so opinionated when it comes to thier dogs, and everyone is an expert!

It is absolutely ridiculous how angry people get when talking about purebred dogs! If people like thier Labradoodles, Goldendoodles or mixed breeds of any kind good for them!
"Git em gang"
Why are you so angry/insecure?

Answer 7

Okay, so here's my take... I have owned purebreds and mutts, all of which I have loved the same. They can all be great. The problem I see, is soooo many people breeding on purpose for animals that likely will end up dying in a shelter. Pure or mixed most people should not be breeders.

Answer 8

I think I smell sour grapes! Jealous? Somebody point out your mutt? LOL

You are obviously TOTALLY ignorant about the history of dog breed developement.

REAL breeds-not the mutts peddled to the ignorant & gullible by CROOKS- are the result of hundreds(in some cases thousands) of years of hard work,strict testing & careful hard CULLING to get a standardized,self-reproducing animal FOR A PURPOSE!
The breeds you mention(& btw,the dingo is a FERAL dog! NOT bred selectively) were developed by people who spent their lives trying to perfect *their* breed,to suit their requirements,in their own areas.....for a REASON!

NONE "started out" as some A**HOLES "get-rich-quick" scheme.
"I'll make mutts w/these 2 p-o-s (cuz they couldn't get a good quality dog from a reputable breeder) & stick a cutesie-poo name on the resulting p-o-s pups & then LIE about em."
Or...just as likely...
"S**T!!! I couldn't manage my animals & got a horrible accidental breeding. Instead of culling the result,I'll pretend it was on purpose."

The "labradoodle" disaster??? A FAILED(get that part) ***FAILED*** attempt at a guide dog for those w/allergies. Failure because they won't breed true & STILL produced allergic reactions. Cuz it was a REALLY stupid cross to make in the first place.

The main/first thought(HA!!people *think* first??we know better than that) should be...
***IF you don't want a such & such breed OR a such & such breed, WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU SO FOOLISH AS TO THINK YOU WANT A COMBINATION OF THE TWO?????***
That makes absolutely NO SENSE.

Answer 9

I believe the designer dogs of the past were bred to perform a certain function, whether it be rat catching, badger hunting (dachshunds) or shepherding. (Not the Dingo, by the way, as it is as close to a wild breed as they get). The ones that are being bred today are being bred specifically for looks alone. Strangely, mutts, as you call it are very close to the dogs that evolved around Humans during our stoneage ancestry, i.e. floppy ears and a curly tail.

Answer 10

Accidental mateing between to different purebred dogs is bad enough... Why would any one do it on purpose...
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