to all the christians pls read this part 5?

Question

Misunderstanding becomes a religion

Throughout the Gospels we see that the disciples of Jesus consistently misunderstood his speaking of higher spiritual matters. When he spoke of the sword of wisdom they showed him swords of metal to assure him they were well equipped.27 When he warned them against the "leaven" of the Scribes and Pharisees they thought he was complaining that they did not have any bread.28 Is it any wonder, then that he said to them: "Perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened? Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? How is it that ye do not understand?"29 Even in the moment of his final departure from them, their words showed that they still believed the kingdom of God was an earthly political entity and not the realm of spirit.30 This being so, the Gospels themselves must be approached with grave caution and with the awareness that Jesus was not the creator of a new religion, but a messenger of the Sanatana Dharma, the Eternal Religion he had learned in India. As a priest of the Saint Thomas Christian Church of South India once commented to me: "You cannot understand the teachings of Jesus if you do not know the scriptures of India." And if you do know the scriptures of India you can see where-however well-intentioned they may have been-the authors of the Gospels often completely missed the point and garbled the words and ideas they heard from Jesus, even attributing to him incidents from the life of Buddha (such as the Widow's Mite) and mistaking his quotations from the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita and the Dhammapada for doctrines original to him. For example, the opening verse of the Gospel of John, which has been cited through the centuries as proof of the unique character and mission of Jesus, is really a paraphrase of the Vedic verse: "In the beginning was Prajapati, with Him was the Word, and the Word was truly the Supreme Brahman."31 Having confused Christ with Jesus, things could only go downhill for them and their followers until the true Gospel of Christ was buried beneath two millennia of confusion and theological debris.

Return to India-not ascension

It is generally supposed that at the end of His ministry in Israel Jesus ascended into heaven. But Saint Matthew and Saint John, the two Evangelists that were eye-witnesses of His departure, do not even mention such a thing, for they knew that He went to India after departing from them. Saint Mark and Saint Luke, who were not there, simply speak of Jesus being taken up into the heavens. The truth is that He departed into India, though it is not unlikely that He did rise up and "fly" there. This form of travel is not unknown to the Indian yogis.

That Jesus did not leave the world at the age of thirty-three was written about by Saint Irenaeus of Lyon in the second century. He claimed that Jesus lived to be fifty or more years old before leaving the earth, though he also said that Jesus was crucified at the age of thirty-three. This would mean that Jesus lived twenty years after the crucifixion. This assertion of Saint Irenaeus has puzzled Christian scholars for centuries, but if we put it together with other traditions it becomes comprehensible. Basilides of Alexandria, Mani of Persia, and Julian the Emperor said that Jesus had gone to India after His crucifixion.

Some Buddhist historical records about Jesus

A contemporary written record of the life and teachings of Jesus in India was discovered in 1887 by the Russian traveler Nicholas Notovitch during his wanderings in Ladakh. He had it translated from the Tibetan text (the original, kept in the Marbour monastery near Lhasa, was in Pali) and, despite intense opposition from Christians in Russia and Europe, published it in his book The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ.32

As would be expected, the authenticity of Notovitch's book was attacked33 and various articles written claiming that the monks of the Himis monastery, where Notovitch had found the manuscript, told investigators that they knew nothing of Notovitch or the text. But both Swami Abhedananda and Swami Trigunatitananda-direct disciples of Sri Ramakrishna34 and preachers of Vedanta35 in America-went at separate times to the Himis monastery. The monks there not only assured them that Notovitch had spent some time in the monastery as he claimed, they also showed them the manuscript-part of which they translated for Swami Abhedananda, who knew from having read Notovitch's book that it was indeed the same writing found in The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ. Subsequently, Abhedananda had the English translation of Notovitch's text printed in India where the Christian authorities had until then prohibited both its publication or its importation and sale.

Swami Trigunatitananda not only saw the manuscript in Himis, he also was shown two paintings of Jesus. One was a depiction of His conversation with the Samaritan Woman at the well. The other was of Jesus meditating in the Himalayan forest surrounded by wild beasts that were tamed by His very presence. A copy made from his description is reproduced on the cover of this booklet.

Later, Dr. Nicholas Roerich, the renowned scholar, philosopher, artist, and explorer, traveled in Ladakh and also was shown the manuscript and assured by the monks that Jesus had indeed lived in several Buddhist monasteries during His "lost years." He wrote about his own viewing of the scrolls in his book The Heart of Asia.

In 1921 the Himis monastery was visited by Henrietta Merrick who, in her book In the World's Attic tells of learning about the records of Jesus' life that were kept there. She wrote: "In Leh is the legend of Jesus who is called Issa, and the Monastery at Himis holds precious documents fifteen hundred years old which tell of the days that he passed in Leh where he was joyously received and where he preached."

Answer 1

All that doesnt prove anything but only one thing:
You are looking for something else besides the bible.
God reveals himself in the bible and I dont find him in buddhism.
The biblical prophecies have been fulfilled in the new testament and there is no need for any scripture or teachings after that.
Even Paul, John and James arent necassary to read, they are just helpful to know.
So if you feel like like you need to start a new religion then your going down >:)

Answer 2

Here's what I think: I think we have all had past lives -- that the basic teachings of Buddhism & Hinduism are true (we are born again, reborn, pass over to be new human beings at death). This is and was true of "Jesus" as well. Therefore, He probably was in every or most countries, in one lifetime or another. I believe He, alone, wrote the many books of the Bible, the Torah, and every other "religious work" that man follows. It was, I believe, the only way to record the Truth of history, what was taking place. And, that someday, He would return and be able to transcribe all of the writings so that they could be perfectly understood by all or most cultures. Every culture has their story, their history -- but it will take "Jesus" to return to interpret His own works for us.

So, my advice is to not get crazed over a few authors' books and gurus that do not have HIS truth. They are all guessing, stating opinions, and many making up stories just to sell books or get followers.

I, like many, did not read everything you wrote. Though I admire your adherence to the details of your studies & beliefs, and your ability to write these things, I am not much interested in speculation -- and that's all it is (whether your own or the authors (etc.) that you mentioned.

Take in what all religions teach, what all people believe. Try to form opinions of your own, but remember they are only opinions. Be open to the Truth, which, again, only the Lord has.

Peace.

Answer 3

I'm going to have to re-read what you have written. It opens up a whole new way of looking at religion and your proof (Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita and the Dhammapada etc) is very powerful.
When God said: Build me temples of love. Man built temples of stone (Tagore). A grave misunderstanding that has changed the course of the world.
Sanskrit is the root of Euro-Asian languages and the Zero was being used in India while Europe denied its existence. Religion and the zero is well connected. India believed in the void, whereas in Europe they could not grasp this and stuck to the ancient philosopher's theory until the zero could no longer be denied.
Would like your views on the zero and God.
Meanwhile, when I have time I will re-read what you have written.

Answer 4

What!? I'm going to tell you the truth and let you know that I didn't read your entire essay. But what I do want to say is how could Jesus attend Saint Thomas Christian Church of South India when there were no Christians, the church wasn't called christians until the book of acts. So if he did attend there they were already converted by the apostles, thereby receiving the name Saint Thomas ChRiStiAn Church of South India.

Answer 5

Well, since you are so confused, being in that "indian monestary" and you think that JESUS went to "india" to teach...

And then you point out silliness that JESUS lived on earth til he was 50something, means that you were either watching the Davinci Code that is all fiction, (with a piece of truth here and there to confuse people), so your here trying to spread your own type of wayward thinking, to confuse those who are not sure about CHRIST.

Why not stick to your voodoo hinduisms, and just leave Christianity alone, or just admit to bein an athiest, and trying to confuse the masses into believeing baloney just like the Davinci Code proved that anyone who doesnt know "beans" about being a Christian will believe ANYTHING, that is in the movies,or on TV and be swayed because they believe if its in print, or on the big or little screen, it must be true.

Not so, but, there are those who make a case on the strangest providence, and whimsical natures of this and that piece of fluff, which amounts to nothing at all, but serves to persuade those who dont know JESUS to think things other than the truth.

You sir, do a disservice to Chrisitanity with your nonesense. But, when they truley seek the LORD, they will discover it for themselves and shed your nonesensical matter of diatribes and drivel.

I wish you well..

Jesse

Answer 6

Here is the sword of wisom that Jesus has given to me to reply to your hollow teachings.

Colossians 2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Answer 7

Is anybody crazy enough to read all that - certainly not me.

Anyway, after reading the first couple of lines, I suggest you not suppose that the disciples didn't understand Jesus' words, just because a writer suggests that in a couple of places. How did that writer know whether the disciples understood, when the writer was not even there?

Answer 8

i think ur right, they dont want to hear the truth. see the first bible was true then people started changing it. they added idioms similes.meataphores. and stuff wich is confusing.thats why the whole religion is messed up,they cant agree in what and who they belive in. one day i read something of the bible on yahoo answers and it seemed as if it was written by a human. my brother read it and said it sounded like shakespere wrote it cuz it had like 15 thys in it.the whole bible sounds like an idiom.

Answer 9

If you took some time to read parts of the Bible then you would understand God and Jesus better. You should trust Them and try to listen to Their word.

Answer 10

I am saddened to see people like you who have such a strong ability to believe in things yet they don't see the Truth! Jesus is reality, and the Bible is 100% true to the last detail. Please seek Christian counsel. You may be able to overcome these strange beliefs and find God.