Do you call me an "idiot" for my belief that God was the motivating force in the Big Bang and all evolution?

Answer 1

No.

But I think its fair to say that Christianity is incompatible with a believe in evolution.

Not that you are an idiot just that the real Christian bigots won't accept you.

10 dangers of theistic evolution
by Werner Gitt

The atheistic formula for evolution is:

Evolution = matter + evolutionary factors (chance and necessity + mutation + selection + isolation + death) + very long time periods.

In the theistic evolutionary view, God is added:

Theistic evolution = matter + evolutionary factors (chance and necessity + mutation + selection + isolation + death) + very long time periods + God.

In this system God is not the omnipotent Lord of all things, whose Word has to be taken seriously by all men, but He is integrated into the evolutionary philosophy. This leads to 10 dangers for Christians.1

Danger no. 1: Misrepresentation of the Nature of God
The Bible reveals God to us as our Father in Heaven, who is absolutely perfect (Matthew 5:48), holy (Isaiah 6:3), and omnipotent (Jeremiah 32:17). The Apostle John tells us that ‘God is love’, ‘light’, and ‘life’ (1 John 4:16; 1:5; 1:1-2). When this God creates something, His work is described as ‘very good’ (Genesis 1:31) and ‘perfect’ (Deuteronomy 32:4).

Theistic evolution gives a false representation of the nature of God because death and ghastliness are ascribed to the Creator as principles of creation. (Progressive creationism, likewise, allows for millions of years of death and horror before sin.)

Danger no. 2: God becomes a God of the Gaps
The Bible states that God is the Prime Cause of all things. ‘But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things … and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by Him’ (1 Corinthians 8:6).

However, in theistic evolution the only workspace allotted to God is that part of nature which evolution cannot ‘explain’ with the means presently at its disposal. In this way He is reduced to being a ‘god of the gaps’ for those phenomena about which there are doubts. This leads to the view that ‘God is therefore not absolute, but He Himself has evolved—He is evolution’.2

Danger no. 3: Denial of Central Biblical Teachings
The entire Bible bears witness that we are dealing with a source of truth authored by God (2 Timothy 3:16), with the Old Testament as the indispensable ‘ramp’ leading to the New Testament, like an access road leads to a motor freeway (John 5:39). The biblical creation account should not be regarded as a myth, a parable, or an allegory, but as a historical report, because:

Biological, astronomical and anthropological facts are given in didactic [teaching] form.
In the Ten Commandments God bases the six working days and one day of rest on the same time-span as that described in the creation account (Exodus 20:8-11).
In the New Testament Jesus referred to facts of the creation (e.g. Matthew 19:4-5).
Nowhere in the Bible are there any indications that the creation account should be understood in any other way than as a factual report.
The doctrine of theistic evolution undermines this basic way of reading the Bible, as vouched for by Jesus, the prophets and the Apostles. Events reported in the Bible are reduced to mythical imagery, and an understanding of the message of the Bible as being true in word and meaning is lost.

Danger no. 4: Loss of the Way for Finding God
The Bible describes man as being completely ensnared by sin after Adam’s fall (Romans 7:18-19). Only those persons who realize that they are sinful and lost will seek the Saviour who ‘came to save that which was lost’ (Luke 19:10).

However, evolution knows no sin in the biblical sense of missing one’s purpose (in relation to God). Sin is made meaningless, and that is exactly the opposite of what the Holy Spirit does—He declares sin to be sinful. If sin is seen as a harmless evolutionary factor, then one has lost the key for finding God, which is not resolved by adding ‘God’ to the evolutionary scenario.

Danger no. 5: The Doctrine of God’s Incarnation is Undermined
The incarnation of God through His Son Jesus Christ is one of the basic teachings of the Bible. The Bible states that ‘The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us’ (John 1:14), ‘Christ Jesus … was made in the likeness of men (Philippians 2:5-7).

Danger no. 6: The Biblical Basis of Jesus’ Work of Redemption Is Mythologized
The Bible teaches that the first man’s fall into sin was a real event and that this was the direct cause of sin in the world. ‘Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned’ (Romans 5:12).

Theistic evolution does not acknowledge Adam as the first man, nor that he was created directly from ‘the dust of the ground’ by God (Genesis 2:17). Most theistic evolutionists regard the creation account as being merely a mythical tale, albeit with some spiritual significance. However, the sinner Adam and the Saviour Jesus are linked together in the Bible—Romans 5:16-18. Thus any theological view which mythologizes Adam undermines the biblical basis of Jesus’ work of redemption.

Danger no. 7: Loss of Biblical Chronology
The Bible provides us with a time-scale for history and this underlies a proper understanding of the Bible. This time-scale includes:

The time-scale cannot be extended indefinitely into the past, nor into the future. There is a well-defined beginning in Genesis 1:1, as well as a moment when physical time will end (Matthew 24:14).
The total duration of creation was six days (Exodus 20:11).
The age of the universe may be estimated in terms of the genealogies recorded in the Bible (but note that it cannot be calculated exactly). It is of the order of several thousand years, not billions.
Galatians 4:4 points out the most outstanding event in the world’s history: ‘But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth His Son.’ This happened nearly 2,000 years ago.
The return of Christ in power and glory is the greatest expected future event.
Supporters of theistic evolution (and progressive creation) disregard the biblically given measures of time in favour of evolutionist time-scales involving billions of years both past and future (for which there are no convincing physical grounds). This can lead to two errors:

Not all statements of the Bible are to be taken seriously.
Vigilance concerning the second coming of Jesus may be lost.
Danger no. 8: Loss of Creation Concepts
Certain essential creation concepts are taught in the Bible. These include:

God created matter without using any available material.
God created the earth first, and on the fourth day He added the moon, the solar system, our local galaxy, and all other star systems. This sequence conflicts with all ideas of ‘cosmic evolution’, such as the ‘big bang’ cosmology.
Theistic evolution ignores all such biblical creation principles and replaces them with evolutionary notions, thereby contradicting and opposing God’s omnipotent acts of creation.

Danger no. 9: Misrepresentation of Reality
The Bible carries the seal of truth, and all its pronouncements are authoritative—whether they deal with questions of faith and salvation, daily living, or matters of scientific importance.

Evolutionists brush all this aside, e.g. Richard Dawkins says, ‘Nearly all peoples have developed their own creation myth, and the Genesis story is just the one that happened to have been adopted by one particular tribe of Middle Eastern herders. It has no more special status than the belief of a particular West African tribe that the world was created from the excrement of ants’.4

If evolution is false, then numerous sciences have embraced false testimony. Whenever these sciences conform to evolutionary views, they misrepresent reality. How much more then a theology which departs from what the Bible says and embraces evolution!

Danger no. 10: Missing the Purpose
In no other historical book do we find so many and such valuable statements of purpose for man, as in the Bible. For example:

Man is God’s purpose in creation (Genesis 1:27-28).
Man is the purpose of God’s plan of redemption (Isaiah 53:5).
Man is the purpose of the mission of God’s Son (1 John 4:9).
We are the purpose of God’s inheritance (Titus 3:7).
Heaven is our destination (1 Peter 1:4).
However, the very thought of purposefulness is anathema to evolutionists. ‘Evolutionary adaptations never follow a purposeful program, they thus cannot be regarded as teleonomical.’5 Thus a belief system such as theistic evolution that marries purposefulness with non-purposefulness is a contradiction in terms.

Conclusion
The doctrines of creation and evolution are so strongly divergent that reconciliation is totally impossible. Theistic evolutionists attempt to integrate the two doctrines, however such syncretism reduces the message of the Bible to insignificance. The conclusion is inevitable: There is no support for theistic evolution in the Bible.

Answer 2

No, I agree with you. I believe science and religion are more closely related than some people would believe. Where in the Bible does it say "the big bang did not happen" or "evolution is a lie?" Why could God not be responsible for these things? The Bible is very wide open for interpurtation and it leaves of things open to begin with. With all the different translations, who knows what it really says. It has been acknowledged that some words have been mistranslated.

Answer 3

No, I agree with you. Things don't just happen ie the big bang did not just happen, God had to have made it that way. Evolution however is where i disagree because people cannot evolve from apes-how would you explain apes that are here now? and God created us in his image, I know youre not assuming that God is an ape. Fossils they find are merely animals that were on earth before he started the earth over, then adam and eve made everyone spread over earth and leave the garden and then mankind was too bad so god flooded the earth and redid everything yet again.

Answer 4

I don't happen to believe that -- but admit it is possible. I'm an agnostic, so am unwilling to take a stand on this.

However, you have a lot of company. Your belief is exactly what I was taught in Catholic Hisgh School and by a PhD Biologist Priest at a Catholic University. Even Pope John Paul II held your belief. Catholics make up half the world's population of Christians -- so I'd say that your beliefs are actually pretty mainstream Christian.

Answer 5

it really is somewhat a question, yet: if you're to settle for the classic definition of God as being an entity that's both omniscient, all-powerful and omnipresent, and then turn to technology to % out him, then what somewhat matches those diverse varieties? the reply: The Universe, each and every thing. The universe (or multiverse, or omniverse, in case you want) is, by utilizing definition, each and every thing. therefore that is all-pervading. The universe consists of and contains all powers and forces which will be. therefore, it really is all-powerful. The universe consists of all information, for it consists of both the brains of all creatures that are able to understanding issues and jointly, all issues that would nicely be prevalent. Given this definition, does this make God the universe, or the opposite? The state of the universe being warm and dense or in its modern-day kind is inappropriate - the trend carry for the era of time. God, universe, Universe, god. in case you agree for this, could it replace the way you handle both of them? could scientists attitude the mysteries of the international with blind faith and dogmatism? could human beings end to wish, understanding that the in person-friendly words way their deity can hear them is by utilizing them conversing to those with ears, or perhaps then, no answer would come? nicely, I doubt it. Edit: "being that each and absolutely everyone information and our minds are linked to the universe then does no longer we be able to tap into this large ability source that powers the Universe?" No, that would not stick with in any respect. Our minds are area of the particular association of the unverse, real, and that i think that is accessible to treat the universe as being genuinely built of forces or ability. besides the undeniable fact that, to deduce that this implies we may be able to someway consciously administration remember is a huge logical bounce. Why could the circulate of ability contained in the understand that's our brains have any potential to flow something else of the universe by any potential previous that which it already does? (This being, for sure, by our bodies). to assert that our minds can someway 'tap into' something else of the universe (the universe itself, i do not comprehend the position you acquire the conception there became some type seperate capacity source) is as ludicrous as to point that something from a chihuahua to a raindrop to a small rock would do an same element, at any element.

Answer 6

Nah not an idiot that is your view on something who are other people to put you down for what you believe?You do not go around like most of these christians in here calling everyone a sinner and blah blah and that they do not think right or someone else is all wrong.Believe what you want no matter what the other people say here

Answer 7

No, I believe if you study the Book of Genesis closely it bears this theory out completely. The Bible states that 1000 years can be as a day with God and also a day can be as 1000 years.
Whatever has taken place in this old planet it is due to God and came to exist by His spoken Words. He breathed the breath of life into Adam. Not Premordial Slime.

Answer 8

The Baha'i faith says science will one day prove religion.

On that note, I will restate something I've answered previously.

Creationists say that in the beginning God created light.

Scientists say that the Big Bang began with a great burst of light.

So no, I don't think you are an idiot. I think you are exactly right.

Answer 9

No doubt some will-

I don't believe in Evolution whatsoever, so take comfort in the fact that a greater percentage of people would call *me* an idiot than would call you an idiot.

Answer 10

I believe that God created the Big Bang, created Evolution and all we're doing is figuring it out. What so blasphemous about that??

Answer 11

fI believe that was the method God used to get the ball rolling.
Energy creates matter that has been proven. God is a giant source of energy. But he went on further to create other things.
plants, animals, and people. Don't believe in evolution, but do believe he put in us and animals the ability to make other species.
or say dogs. produce big dogs and small dogs and spotted dogs
Maybe originally there was only one set of dogs. Out of one set of people we have other colors, shapes, sizes and whatever.