You're right, I can't be really sure that Jesus will take me to Heaven, because just like I've been taught, I'm not supposed to judge anyone. And I would imagine that includes myself! Will I go to Hell? I doubt that I'm such a bad person that I deserve an eternity in pain and suffering, but hey, who knows. I'll suffer for my sins in life, that's for sure.
I can't prove to everyone that my religion is truth, because they have found others that satisfy them far better than mine would -- everyone's different, so maybe Buddhism is a better fit. As far as I can tell, all religions are different ways of believing and understanding the concept of a Higher Intelligence. From my point of view, it's God, but maybe it's not to the Native Americans who still hold their beliefs in the spirits of nature. I respect their faith as much as mine.
Now the Bible teaches many things, some of which society already agrees with and which I know has to be true. For example, I don't think murder is right, nor do I think stealing is a good thing to do, both of which my religion and society accept. However, like you've suggested, there are differences. While I don't believe that premarital sex is moral, this is not just because a book tells me so. It's because I think two people should save that special bond solely for the product of love, which is finalized in the process of marriage -- notice I didn't mention God there; He adds to my reasoning, but that's just the simple version. I won't lecture on that though, because society values the completely opposite idea -- it would be pointless to argue here.
As for Jesus saving us all, what I understand is that God embodied Himself as man on Earth to show us that He understood what life was like for us. That he wasn't just a fearful, unseen ruler. Assuming that you accept the possibility of a person who held divine power came to the Earth, then you will understand the rest of my statement. Jesus didn't teach that we would be saved just by believing that he existed and that he was right in all his ideas -- he wanted us to live them out too, and show God that we were willing to do good in our lives. The Catholic church teaches that salvation comes from good works and faith. So if I believe in a Higher Intelligence that loves the world He created, and I am a good person during my life here on Earth, I will have taken a big step in the right direction.
A big distinction to make is that Jesus and God are the same being. Jesus was God, but with a human side as well. God is completely divine. So why do we bother going through Jesus first? Why not just skip to God? Because Jesus is God. Jesus is just... the part of God whose duty it is to bring us with Him to Heaven. He is the connection between God's divinity and our human qualities.
2006-06-28 08:13:15
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answered by Anonymous
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A) Where did you EVER get the idea that "common sense" has ANYTHING to do with God's relationship to man? Show me what's "commonsensical" about love!
B) As for the first part, it's called "faith". And I have it.
Now lemme ask YOU something. How do YOU know that the next time you enter a dark room and flick the switch that the light's gonna come on? What do YOU know about exactly how electricity works, huh? You don't know. You have faith that the switch will do what's it's supposed to do and the light will come on. But suppose there's a storm and the wires come down and the light DOESN'T come on. Will you never again throw a light switch because the power went out once? Hmmmmmm?
C) I'm not called upon to prove one doggone thing. Merely to offer others a wider range of choices about faith than they may have heretofore considered.
D) Not never, not nohow to sin again? Oh, baby, how I'd like that! But, face it, luv. being a Christian does NOT mean I'm no longer a human being with a human nature. That nature may be redeemed, but it is STILL fallen. And temptation is as inevitable as sunrise. Falling is always an option. The glory is that falling ain't the end of it. I just get back up, (repenting) and try again, hopefully having learned something in the meantime.
E) Your final panegyric is a bit hysterically unrestrained, but if I understand you correctly, you want to know WHY God can't just let it all go, let us do whatever the heck we want and then say, well, it's ok, kiddies, you just come on home anyhow. Is that it?
If so, try this. He's a FATHER. Now what kind of Dad raises his kids that way? A really, REALLY lousy Dad, that's who. You do a child no favors by not reining him in and teaching self-control, self-discipline and respect for others. If you think otherwise, try being on the receiving end of the results of such "fathering". (See juvenile delinquents and murderers). Not such a good idea now, is it?
F) Jesus IS God. Your final two sentences therefore are sensefree. and in nowise answerable.
2006-06-28 08:27:46
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answered by Granny Annie 6
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I am a Mormon - yes also Christian...
I am not sure, I don't know if I will get to the Celestial Kingdom (heaven). But I do know that I am trying to be like Him as much as I can and that I have made covenants in the temple and if I live worthily I can obtain the highest degree of glory, The Celestial Kingdom. I cannot prove it, but I do have a testimony of the truthfulness and the divinity. I cannot make anyone believe it, they have to study it out in their mind and heart, pray about it, ask if it is true, as I have, and they will find out for themselves. I believe in repentance along with that, I believe once you have repented of a sin, you must try your hardest not to do that again or it is like you never were forgiven for it in the first place. I do not believe just because a person accepts Christ as their Savior or into their heart or whatever that they are "saved" no matter what they do on earth, there is much more to it than just accepting Christ. You have to make covenants, promises, and if you keep yours He will keep His, "I, the Lord, am bound when ye do what I say; but when ye do not what I say, ye have no promise.” (D&C 82:10.)
2006-06-28 08:57:11
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answered by Anonymous
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It boils down to this. What we believe doesn't dictate what is Truth or not.
Whether we can make heads or tails out of what God has said in His word doesn't affect whether it is True or not. Not everything in the Bible makes sense to our human minds. We are trying to understand the one who created the universe and all the mysteries of it with a human mind that can barely remember what it had for breakfast yesterday.
I also think you have a misunderstand of the relationship between Jesus and God. I am not going to go deep into theology here, but the basic relationship is that there is a unity between Jesus and God that we as humans can not understand. Along with the Holy Spirit, God and Jesus are all one and yet all 3 are separate. It's a a mystery as to how that can be, yet it is Truth. That means that what Jesus forgives is also forgiven by the Father and what the Father loves and commands Jesus obeys and willing submits Himself to doing.
IF you are sincerely curious about this, my advice is for you to go to a full gospel church and ask questions of the Pastor there. But you have to go with a willingness to be challenged in what you believe and a willingness to learn new things.
2006-06-28 08:30:15
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answered by Todd 1
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Science confirms the Bible's truth and accuracy, our conscience confirms it, Biblical prophesy confirms it, and faith in Christ puts you in good company. Who will you believe?
I hope to see you in heaven one day!
Great Leaders Speak About the Bible
"Here is a Book worth more than all the other books which were ever printed." Patrick Henry
"That book, Sir, is the Rock upon which our republic rests." Andrew Jackson "The more profoundly we study this wonderful Book, and the more closely we observe its divine precepts, the better citizens we will become and the higher will be our destiny as a nation." William McKinley
"The best religion the world has ever known is the religion of the Bible. It builds up all that is good." Rutherford B. Hayes
"There are a good many problems before the American people today, and before me as President, but I expect tofind the solution of those problems just in the proportion that I am faithful in the study of the Word of God." Woodrow Wilson
"The whole inspiration of our civilization springs from the teachings of Christ and the lessons of the prophets. To read the Bible for these fundamentals is a necessity of American life." Herbert Hoover
"I say to you, Search the Scriptures! The Bible is the book of all others, to be read at all ages, and in all conditions of human life; not to be read once or twice or thrice through, and then laid aside, but to be read in small portions of one or two chapters every day, and never to be intermitted, unless by some overruling necessity." John Quincy Adams
"We cannot read the history of our rise and development as a nation, without reckoning the place the Bible has occupied in shaping the advances of the Republic." Franklin D. Roosevelt
"Within the covers of the Bible are all the answers for all the problems men face. The Bible can touch hearts, order minds and refresh souls." Ronald Reagan "In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength." Robert E. Lee
"I have read the Bible through many times, and now make it a practice to read it through once every year. It is a book of all others for lawyers, as well as divines; and I pity the man who cannot find in it a rich supply of thought and of rules for conduct. It fits a man for life —it prepares him for death." Daniel Webster
2006-06-28 08:19:01
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answered by Adamray 3
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Over the years and with much study, I have had to change many beliefs in my Christian faith. Jesus is one of many messengers sent by God or the Higher Power. Buddah, the Hindu Masters to name a few. Perhaps Mohamad too. Jesus may be the greatest of all but we have little informaition compared to other messengers, most of the information is provided by his followers, Gospel writers that wrote the surviving Cannon (the 4, Mark, Mathew, Luke, John. These were selected after much arguing among the early bishops sifting what was then dozens and dozens of accounts. The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls are still yielding challenging facts that Christians will need to reconcile in their beliefs. . (See Gospel of Thomas--the "sayings" gospel). I can't longer believe the other Masters and their followerers will be denied heaven. Does it seem logical that the Christ would condem over half the world? To be informed by study and the applicaton of common sense will alter your beliefs or at least have you question them. One can still be a Christian--but a different Christian you will become----and it won't be easy!
2006-06-28 08:48:34
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answered by Anonymous
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I was actually thinking about asking this same question myself. Growing up in a Christian family and hearing the views of others, it seems that we all pronounce God to be the one and only, but where is the proof? Millions of other people believe in other beings and think they are following the true god(s), so how do we know who's wrong? We could be straying so far from the path that the real god(s) set for us just by worshiping a false one that everyone believes is true! I guess I'm going to settle for thinking there is something higher then me that created this world, but not acknowledging it with any name.
2006-06-28 08:29:44
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answered by Lindsey L. 3
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Because the Bible said so.
Because the Holy Spirit has confirmed to my spirit the truth of what the Bible said.
Because my common sense (and yours, apparently) fail horribly at understanding the great magnitude of God, Eternity, Jesus, Salvation, etc... Do you think that these things SHOULD be explained by "COMMON" sense? Don't you think they're slightly bigger than that?
"COMMON" sense is derived from experience. A baby doesn't know that it can't swallow a fork. As we grow and live, we acquire experiences that add up to our "common" sense.
Many things never occur to you because you've never been exposed to them. For example, how do deep forest tribal villages brush their teeth? Do you think it's "common" sense to them? You may not know. You may have never considered it. How can you "know" anything that you've never spent time REALLY investigating?
Same with these things you question. You simply don't have the common sense that those of us who live here (in Christianity)have.
It's cool that you're a skeptic. You just have to start asking your questions without the answer already calculated in your head.
2006-06-28 08:29:43
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answered by Hyzakyt 4
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Most people think that they are good, and being told Jesus died for your sins is offensive to them. Rightfully so. However if you look at the law, Have you ever told a lie (doesn't have to be a big lie) then you are guilty of the law. Have you ever stolen anything no matter the cost. Again guilty under the law. Now in the eyes of God you are a lieing thief, guilty under the law. If you break just one of the laws no matter how small then you are condemned by the whole law and worthy of judgement of the whole law.
Jesus' death remove the condemnation of the law from us, ie forgiveness. That is where faith comes in, it is a choice.
I choice by faith Grace because I am guilty under the law and condemned under the law. Grace is the only hope that I have.
Grace what a word, not worthy of it but by faith able to be saved by it.
Acceptance before God not by my actions but the action of someone who cared enough to give his life in ransom for mine.
Faith that is what and all it is.
2006-06-28 08:28:12
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answered by Dead Man Walking 4
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The common sense is found in Jesus (God in flesh) sacrificing Himself so that sacrifices (for the Jews) would no longer have to happen. The prophecies told the Jews that they would someday have a king that would sacrifice everything so that they could be forgiven of all of their sins without having to continue to give sacrificial offerings to atone for their sin. And I know I'm saved more than the Bible could ever tell me. It's not only about Christ, it's about God and the Holy Spirit. God gives me grace and forgiveness because Jesus was my sacrifice. I believe who He was because He was my sacrifice. That's why you won't find me at any alter burning a goat or a sheep. My sacrifice has been made. The blood has been spilt and I'm forgiven, atoned from my sins, through the perfect, faultless, blameless blood of my sacrificial Lamb, Jesus. His Father has promised me forgiveness and salvation and it is not the presence of Jesus I feel in my soul, it is the presence of God that I feel.
2006-06-28 08:16:21
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answered by Anonymous
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