Matthew 24:36. Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.
If Jesus is the Son and Father, then it would read: Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the son ( Jesus ), but only the Father ( Jesus ).
That doesnt make sense.
Also John 14:28: YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father (Jesus), because the Father (Jesus) is greater than I am.
How do you explain the Trinity with Jesus stating he isnt greater nor equal to the father. Also, the Holy Spirit isnt mentioned here as well. How come the Holy Spirit doesnt know the Great Day?
2006-06-28 06:08:55 · 7 answers · asked by osubuckeye 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
you are right. It doesn't make since because God and Jesus are two different beings. When Christ was baptized God sent a dove and said "This is My Son whom I have approved" Why would Jesus say that about himself? And you keep referring to the Great Day. Are you meaning Armageddon? How much do you know about it. If you want to know more about it and the truth about God and the Bible go to www.watchtower.org You might learn something new. What do you have to loose?
2006-06-28 06:16:06 · answer #1 · answered by Snow 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Tertullian, one of the early church fathers, coined the term "Trinity." The word actually means "three-ness." Tertullian was an ardent supporter of orthodoxy in the church, and was one of the greatest defenders of the historic Christian faith.
The term "Trinity" is not found in the Scriptures, but the doctrine is clearly displayed. There are many times where Jesus said of Himself that He was God. He applied the name of God, "I AM," to Himself in several passages. Here's a few examples: Matthew 14:27, Mark 6:50, Mark 13:6, Luke 21:8, John 4:26, John 6:20, John 8:24, 28, 58, and John 13:19. There are several others I have not listed. Besides this, Jesus said that He & the Father were one (John 10:30). This describes a unity, even though there are two.
The Trinity has an underlying appearance in the Old Testament as well. In Genesis, we see during creation that God said, "Let us make man in our image." and also when man sinned, God said, "...man has become as one of us, to know good and evil..." Who was He speaking to? The other persons of the Trinity. We also see that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters in the beginning, and in John 1:1-3, it clearly states that Jesus (the Word) made everything.
Another angle to pursue is the various Scriptures that demonstrate that God's attributes are present in Jesus as well as the Holy Spirit. For example, the Father is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and so is the Son (John 1:2), and so is the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 9:14). Another shared attribute is their holiness. Only God is truly holy. The Father is holy (Revelation 15:4), so is the Son (Acts 3:14), and so is the Spirit (Acts 1:8).
An ancient diagram of the Trinity can be helpful in getting your hands around the doctrine, and can be found at the link in the SOURCE list.
The Trinitarian doctrine requires much more depth of discussion than can occur here. It is important to know that we only have to believe, not necessarily understand, the Trinitarian nature of God. It is a bedrock doctrine of the Christian church. Anything else is heresy.
2006-06-28 06:21:19 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Holy Spirit can be thought of as the will of the Father made manifest. The Son can be thought of as the love of the Father made manifest. The Father, for the most part, deals with the Mosaic Law and Judgement. The Son represents Mercy and Grace. The Holy Spirit is the love of the Father acted out in us all. Hope this helps, and thanks for this question.
2006-06-28 06:13:07 · answer #3 · answered by Collin R 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Look at Paul's passage in Philippians 2. It's known as the kenosis passage because of the Greek word "keno," which means to "deprive of power, empty." Paul speaks of Jesus willingly emptying himself in taking the form of humanity. This does not deny the interpenetration of the Father, Son and Spirit, which is an essential part of the doctrine of the Trinity.
2006-06-28 06:15:50 · answer #4 · answered by Swish 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
the fact is Jesus never claims to be divine. At the most he claims to be the Messiah.
These two concepts are not the same and their is no evidence in the OT that the Messiah will be anything more than a Prophet and a human being.
2006-06-28 06:15:51 · answer #5 · answered by Gamla Joe 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
well my huband would say that the bible was writen but a bunch of white people that wanted everyone to follow the book like it was the law (so they could atempt to control people ) but he smokes a little to much but god,jesus, nor any other "higherpower" wrote the book it was some person not even from those times so the real ? is why did who ever write it
2006-06-28 06:26:54 · answer #6 · answered by queen of stars 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Remember Jesus' baptism? This trinity stuff is well documented... do your homework please.
2006-06-28 06:13:50 · answer #7 · answered by ddead_alive 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋