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Sabine believe there is a god, and i believe there is not....who is right and who is wrong???

2006-06-28 00:01:15 · 25 answers · asked by IBRAHIM 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Take a look around you from where you sit. You will notice that everything in the room is ‘made’: the walls, the upholstery, the ceiling, the chair where you sit, the book you hold in your hand, the glass on the table and countless other details. None of them happen to exist in your room of their own accord. Even the simple loops of the carpet were made by someone: they did not appear spontaneously or by chance.
A person who is about to read a book knows that it has been written by an author for a specific reason. It would not even occur to him that this book might have come into being by chance. In the same manner, a person who sees a sculpture has no doubt whatsoever that it was made by a sculptor. And not just works of art: even a few bricks resting on top of one another make one think that they must have been brought to rest just so by someone within a certain plan. Therefore, everywhere where there is an order – either small or big – a founder and protector of this order must also exist. If, one day, somebody came forward and said that raw iron and coal came together to form steel by chance, which in turn constructed the Eiffel Tower again by chance, would not he and those who believed him be regarded as insane?
The claim of the theory of evolution, the unique method of denying the existence of Allah(God), is no different than this. According to the theory, inorganic molecules formed amino acids by chance, amino acids formed proteins by chance, and finally proteins formed living creatures again by chance. However, the probability of a living creature being formed by coincidence is less than the probability of the Eiffel Tower being formed in the same manner, because even the simplest human cell is more sophisticated than any man-made structure in the world.
How is it possible to think that the balance in the world came about by coincidence when the extraordinary harmony of nature is observable even with the naked eye? It is the most unreasonable claim to say that the universe, each point of which suggests the existence of its Creator, has come into being on its own.
Therefore, there should be an owner of the balance visible everywhere from our body to the farthest corners of the inconceivably vast universe. So, who is this Creator that ordained everything so subtly and created all?
He cannot be any material being present within the universe, because His must be a will that existed before the universe and created the universe thereupon. The Almighty Creator is One Whom everything finds existence, yet Whose existence is without any beginning or end.
Religion teaches us the identity of our Creator Whose existence we discover with our reason. Through what He has revealed to us as religion, we know that He is Allah, the Compassionate and the Merciful, Who created the heavens and the earth from nothing.
Although most people have the capability to grasp this fact, they spend their lives unaware of it. When they look at a landscape painting, they wonder who its painter is. Later, they praise the artist at length for his beautiful work of art. Despite the fact that they face numerous originals of that painting the moment they turn around, they still disregard the existence of Allah, Who is the only owner of all these beauties. In truth, not even a lengthy research is needed to understand the existence of Allah. Even if one had to live in a room from the time he was born, countless pieces of evidence in this room alone would be enough for him to grasp the existence of Allah.
The human body so overflows with evidence that it could not be contained in many
multivolume encyclopaedias. Even giving a few minutes of conscientious thought to it all is enough to understand the existence of Allah. The present order is protected by Allah and maintained by Him.
The human body is not the only food for thought. Life abides in every square millimetre of the earth, be it observable by men or not. The world overflows with many living beings, from unicellular organisms to plants, from insects to sea animals, and from birds to human beings. If you take a handful of soil and look at it, even therein you can discover manifold living creatures with diverse characteristics. The same is true also for the air you breathe. Even on your skin, there are many living creatures whose names are unknown to you. In the intestines of all living beings are millions of bacteria or unicellular organisms that help digestion. The animal population in the world is many times greater than the human population. When we also consider the plant world, we see that there is not a single spot on the earth where there is no life. All of these creatures that are spread over an area of millions of square kilometres have different body systems, different lives and different contributions to the ecological balance. It is preposterous to claim that all these have come into existence by chance with no aim or purpose. No living being has come to exist through its own accord or effort. No coincidental happening can ever result in such complicated systems.
All of this evidence leads us to the conclusion that the universe works with a certain ‘consciousness’. What, then, is the source of this consciousness? Surely it is neither the living nor the non-living beings in it. Nor can they be the ones that maintain the harmony and preserve the order. The existence and glory of Allah reveals itself in countless proofs in the universe. In fact, there is not even a single man on the earth who will not accept this evident reality from the heart. Yet they still deny it ‘in iniquity and arrogance though their souls are convinced thereof’ as stated in the Qur'an. (Surat an-Naml, 14)
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Have you ever thought about the fact that you did not exist before you were conceived and then born into the world and that you have come into existence from mere nothingness?
Have you ever thought about how the flowers you see in your living room everyday come out of pitch black, muddy soil with fragrant smells and are as colourful as they are?
Have you ever thought about how mosquitoes, which irritatingly fly around you, move their wings so fast that we are unable to see them?
Have you ever thought about how the peels of fruits such as bananas, watermelons, melons and oranges serve as wrappings of high quality, and how the fruits are packed in these wrappings so that they maintain their taste and fragrance?
Have you ever thought about the possibility that while you are asleep a sudden earthquake could raze your home, your office, and your city to the ground and that in a few seconds you could lose everything of the world you possess?
Have you ever thought of how your life passes away very quickly, and that you will grow old and become weak, and slowly lose your beauty, health and strength?
Have you ever thought about how one day you will find the angels of death appointed by Allah (God) before you and that you will then leave this world?
Well, have you ever thought about why people are so attached to a world from which they will soon depart when what they basically need is to strive for the hereafter?
Man is a being whom Allah furnishes with the faculty of thought. Yet, most people do not use this very important faculty as they should. In fact, some people almost never think.
In truth, each person possesses a capacity for thought of which even he himself is unaware. Once man begins to use this capacity, facts he has not been able to realise until that very moment begin to be uncovered for him. The deeper he goes in reflection, the more his capacity to think improves, and this is possible for everyone. One just has to realise that one needs to reflect and then to strive hard.
Someone who does not think will remain totally distant from truths and lead his life in self-deception and error. As a result, he will not grasp the purpose of the creation of the world, and the reason for his existence on the earth. Yet, Allah has created everything with a purpose. This fact is stated in the Qur'an as follows:

We did not create the heavens and the earth and everything between them as a game. We did not create them except with truth but most of them do not know it. (Surat ad-Dukhan: 38-39)
Did you suppose that We created you for amusement and that you would not return to Us? (Surat al-Muminun: 115)

Therefore, each person needs to ponder the purpose of creation, first as it concerns him himself, and then as it pertains to everything he sees in the universe and every event he experiences throughout his life. Someone who does not think, will understand the facts only after he dies, when he gives account before Allah, but then it will be too late. Allah says in the Qur'an that on the day of account, everybody will think and see the truth:

That day Hell is produced, that day man will remember; but how will the remembrance help him?
He will say, "Oh! If only I had prepared in advance for this life of mine!" (Surat al-Fajr: 23-24)

While Allah has given us a chance in the life of this world to reflect and derive conclusions from our reflections, to see the truth will bring us great gain in our life in the hereafter. For this reason, Allah has summoned all people, through His prophets and books, to reflect on their creation and on the creation of the universe:

Have they not reflected within themselves? Allah did not create the heavens and the earth and everything between them except with truth and for a fixed term. Yet many people reject the meeting with their Lord. (Surat ar-Rum: 8)

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2006-06-30 05:21:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Most experts say you should start by defining what you both mean by God. Many believe that God is a higher level which can be found within yourself. If so, Sabine and you both have God within you. So, look no further than yourself for a confirmation.

2006-06-28 00:20:31 · answer #2 · answered by Alacrity 1 · 0 0

As an Agnostic I believe that I don't know enough (and probably won't until I am dead) to say which religion (if any) is right. The problem with saying "If there isn't a God, oh well, but if there is and I don't worship him I'm going to Hell so I should worship God X" is that if God X doesn't exist, but God Y does, I probably just really pissed off God Y. Thus, I live morally and just play on the human fallibility aspect, and hope God, if there is any, is forgiving enough of that.

2006-06-28 00:46:30 · answer #3 · answered by John J 6 · 0 0

YES THERE IS A GOD, BUT WHAT IS A GOD TO YOU?
if this god, is an accumulation of your fantasies, and expectations, like from a cartoon character, then probably not,

BUT IF YOU SHOULD ENTERTAIN THAT AN ENERGY, A POWER A MATH MIRACLE, OF BOUNDLESS POSSIBILITIES, THAT NEVER ENDS, IT IS JUST A CONSTANT,, WITH GREAT ARTISTIC DESIGNS BEYOND ANY THING A HUMAN MIND COULD IMMAGINE, THAT ENERGY, AND PASSION IS POWERED BY LOVE, AND MORE ENERGY THAT WE ARE NOT CAPABLE OF COMPREHENDING, YET, WE ARE WELCOME TO BE A PART OF THIS, IF WE BELIEVE, AND ARE WILLING TO FOLLOW DIRECTIONS AND NOT EVER TRY TO SOLVE THE MYSTERY BUT JUST BE A PART OF IT,, THEN YES

2006-06-28 00:16:45 · answer #4 · answered by Maureen K 4 · 0 0

If one person is declared right in a matter of discussion then the other person can have an automatic opportunity to reconsider and change wrongly held point of view without necessarily being declared as wrong. In general I think we cannot afford to know the wrong. We just need to know the right well enough, the wrong will then come to our knowledge as an opposition to what we have found and known.

I think you will agree that in the composition of our world there are things right, and then there are things wrong. We do not or cannot have an ideal world to live in. The things we know as right are things that are good for us, and things we know as wrong are things that are not good for us, or not in our favour as human beings.

The things we know as right are essential to lives, these are the things we like to or need to have as much of as we can - the things like growth, strength, justice, knowledge, truth, kindness, love and light. The things we know as wrong are also essential things in our lives but we like to move away from them, and like to have as little of them as possible. There is no known limit to things of either category in this world. If we do not know the distinction between right and wrong, or if we do not classify our world for our own good, we will not be able to maintain our existences as human beings.

We define the ultimate of what is good in the world as the concept of God almighty. We know and find through God what is good for us and therefore right in the world. We can prove that God exists just because we cannot deny our own existence.

2006-06-28 00:55:26 · answer #5 · answered by Shahid 7 · 0 0

Sabine is right

2006-06-28 01:04:30 · answer #6 · answered by tapperlorraine 2 · 0 0

Wanna know who among the two of you is right?The answer is you are both right...There is no God for you... That is your own reality....and that is the truth for you...for Sabine there is God....That is his/her own realty.. and that is the truth for him/her....

2006-06-28 00:56:46 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Ask anyone who claims there is a "god" to perform the magic tricks in their "holy book". If they can't perform on demand, their "god" doesn't exist.

For example, the christian/jew/muslim god doesn't exist if it can't turn a stick into a snake, or a revive a decapitated corpse when you ask it to.

It's not about faith, it's about proof. If they can't prove it, it's not there. Don't let them shift the burden of proof onto you.

2006-06-28 01:40:22 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The word God is ineffable, and impossible to define. So I don't kow if I know what you mean.

Does a big powerful thing exist? Mabye. But if it is true, it is not true by reason or fact, but simply by faith in the absurd.

2006-06-28 00:05:43 · answer #9 · answered by steven w 1 · 0 0

neither as you both are entitled to believing that it exists or not and there is nothing out there to prove otherwise

(like an actual photograph or something on video) (and no the bible does not count either as you cannot believe in everything you read)

2006-06-28 04:07:46 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

i think your both right whether you believe in god or not, like me for example i believe there's life after death, but I've got no proof i just believe there is. its nice to believe in something it gives you hope

2006-06-28 00:08:51 · answer #11 · answered by Scottish lass 4 · 0 0

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