NOT for Christians! How can an agnostic become either Atheist or a believer? What proof is there either way?

Question

This question is directed to agnostics and atheists; a response of " my children are proof" or "Pray, read the bible" is not viable proof, so please leave it out of the answers to my question.

Answer 1

The default position for all claims is "false", for the simple reason that there are an infinite number of potential false claims, but only a finite number of potential true claims. For trivial claims, trivial evidence is sufficient. But for outrageous claims, outrageous evidence is required to overcome the appropriate skepticism.

Until gods are proven to exist, it is assumed they don't.

Are you also an aleprechaunist, or are you willing to admit the concept of leprechauns is ridiculous and reject it outright unless sufficient evidence is found?

Depending on the definition of god you choose, there may be proof of the nonexistence of that deity, but in general, it's not practical to prove a negative.

If there were any gods, and they cared whether or not you believed in them, don't you think they'd make it obvious instead of depending on ancient rumors?

Answer 2

Children are not proof of divinity nor proof of religion, however, the mystery of life's spark does hold some relevance. The intentions of Darwin were not as true as they seemed. Taken a little too far by the public at the time, Darwin, a devout Catholic, was doing what most philosophers of his time did. Pray and read the bible is not a relevant answer either because what one hears from one wall, another hears distinctly different from the same. The truth is, proving the possibility of an agnostic or atheist as believers requires any assortment of ocurrences. Often in human physiology the brain will sense feelings on a scientific level that may seem extraordinary yet are quite ordinary. In essence, the workings of the universe in tandem with what we see today in our selves and others is a complex network of genetic protein driven encoding. "Finding religion'" or becoming a "believer," in this author's opinion is more or less a personal endeavor that is a result of the basic need for companionship with something greater than the self in existence. I propose that finding religion or belief is merely a sign of loneliness and personal discovery or sojourne into what we do not know. My advice...focus on the here and now and most often these thoughts become less frequent, after all, as the circle of debate rages on, the world still turns and life continues.

Answer 3

Since Atheism is simply and only a disbelief in the existance of any kind of god or gods, all that is required for an agnostic to become atheist is observe the world, think and seek truth. Any critical thinking will show that without proof, an assertive statement of fact is not a fact.

Thus the statement 'there is a God', or the statement 'the Bible is true' would require proof in order to be believed. Lacking that proof, the agnostic would invevitably become an atheist.

Answer 4

If you are looking for proof you will never be a believer, if it was provable there would be no reason to have faith and everyone would have the same religion.
I believe that Atheists have just as much faith as god-worshipers because to have a belief that there is no god takes just as much conviction as someone saying there is a god. So you will not be able to prove that there is no god either because that too is a matter of faith.
As an agnostic you don't have to commit to either...it's the on-the-fence defense...and it is a valid way to live your life as well.
I am still on a spiritual search. I feel that no 2 people who truly take the time to make that effort on their own will ever end up in the same place.
I sometimes miss the communal worship of an organized religion but I really hate strict religious dogma that I feel is what leads religious institutions to close mindedness and rigid judgments.
Good Luck with finding your way in the world of religious ideals.

Answer 5

Why is it necessary to change? I see no reason why being agnostic isn't enough. The way I see it, there isn't really any proof, so you just have to believe what seems right to you. What religions provide that people actually need are a sense of comminity and guidelines on how to be a good person. If you can find both of those things somewhere else, then fine.

It's kind of like intelligent life elsewhere in the univers. You can't really prove that they do or do not exist because we've never seen any, but the universe is infinite.

Answer 6

The thing is agnostic refers to what you know and atheism/theism to what you believe. I am agnostic and I am atheist. I don't know the truth, but I have strong beliefs that there are no gods. The proof for a god is religious works. The proof against a god is reading those religious works, looking at the contradictions, and saying "If one thing isn't true, what is."

Answer 7

Of course there is no proof, one way or the other. That is what faith is all about. You have faith as an agnostic, an Atheist or a believer. Make your choice and forget about the proof. Your life will be much less complicated.

Answer 8

How an agnostic would become a believer can happen only one way.
GOD would open their eyes to the truth.

TO become an atheist, I am not sure, because I am not sure that a true atheist really exists, we all believe in something. A true athiest believes in nothing at all, meaning they might even believe that they do not exist at all. Weird yes, but by definition, there really cannot be a true atheist.

Answer 9

hmm..okay you can disregard my answer or what ever, but I'm a Catholic, not devout but I believe in most of the biblical things, and that jesus died for are sins, yatta yatta yatta. But to become a "believer" is to research and actually read the bible not as a religious text but as a book and formulate an opinion. Be sure to look at all religions, not just the common ones IE: Catholosism, and the sects of Christianity, try others like Buddism, Judaism, Hinduism, Muslim, scientology any thing. And visit places of worships, the different churches, temples, and even shrines just to see what you agree and disagree with. You are not going to agree with everything in that faith, no one really does, as humans we question crap, but what ever you chose is what you chose! as for the Atheist thing I'm not sure i guess you just don't believe and take more a realist view maybe.. i'm not sure on that one!

Good luck on your search or travels

Answer 10

The only viable truth available to us resides within the truths that our souls believe in and accept. For example, if you choose to believe the Christian Faith, then you believe in what the Bible tells you, just as if you are Kemetic, then you have Faith in what is written in ancient papyrus scrolls.
Each individual has a duty to research the different Faiths in the world and choose which one is best for their soul. Once this happens, then that individual becomes a 'person of faith'.