I don't get it, we have accomplished so much
1. Suddam hussain was removed from power
2. Iraqis now have many more freedoms
------drive, dress how they want, go to school, watch tv, listen to the radio... and the list goes on
3. We have killed/imprisoned many terrorists in the middle east
4. the list goes on
We have done all this for a price of under 2400 great men that i have so much respect for. We lost 58000 in vietnam and accomplished nothing. In WWII over 16000000 were killed or wounded. How come so many people supported that war. And the people that don't support this war are the ones that think it is ok to kill hundreds of thousands of babies each year. If anyone here can understand the liberal mind will you please explain it to me.
2006-06-27 17:24:36
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answered by THEBurgerKing 4
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We are losing the war because we are in it. We really stand to gain nothing from establishing a democratic Iraq. One of the lies the American public was told was that Iraq had strong ties to Al Quieda. It later came out that they had little or no contact with them prior to our invasion. Remember, they were the ones actually responsible for the 9/11 attack. Have they been stopped? No, in fact Bin Laden keeps thumbing his nose at us with his tapes, and we can't seem to even come close to finding him.
The first war we waged in Iraq, the "Gulf War" we got into because America seems to think that we need to make everyone else in the world believe what we do. While I think we have the best thing going, we don't have the right to force everyone else to do what we do. So, yet again we are losing the war in an idealogical sense.
You could also say that we are losing the war because we have lost over 2500 soldiers since combat began, not to mention families that have been pulled apart when husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers and children have been shipped off to try to "help" people that don't want us there in the first place. Does that sound like we are winning?
Then, there is all the damage that has been done to the country of Iraq, destroying it's infrastructure and splintering the government. Now they are in a civil war, even though the press refuses to call it that, and they are killing each other at a far greater rate than before we came to help. How many homes, business, roads, and who knows what else have been destroyed because we started this war?
Add to that the immense debt that has been incurred by the American people to fight this war that gains us nothing.
Is that enough reasons for you?
2006-06-27 17:29:15
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answered by Dave Shakespeare 3
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We're not really losing, but it's alot like Vietnam, kind of an non-winable situation, the whole "War on Terror" idea. Terror will never end, it's a way of life for alot of people around the world, it always has been, and our government knows this.
The problem I have is that, even though it seems we actually may have found some WMD's in the desert, Bush & Co. were advised by the intellegence community that we had not found any WMD's, then, yet he lied to all of us to go to war none-the-less! Presumeably for big oil profits, etc. We all know that Halliburton, Dick Cheney's company, received a no-bid contract to finish the oil pipeline that runs through parts of Afghanistan, and through Eurasia, just after we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.
I truly feel that the whole war on terror was just a big front for big oil profits, and the patriot act was a way to keep people quiet, out of fear!
EX: What ever happened to the Anthrax scare, and the infamous terror color chart system? Seems like that stuff just went away, for the most part!
Between mountains of 9/11 conspiracy evidence, stolen elections, Iraq having nothing to do with 9/11, not actually looking for Bin Laden, etc. etc., it all seems like a good 'ol fashion scam to me!!!
2006-06-27 17:20:45
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answered by ConspiracyExaminer 3
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Over 2000 US soliders have been killed. Tens of thousands have been wounded. And everyone thinks that this is about gas. Our fuel prices are not determined by a war inthe Middle East. That is OPEC.
The number one reason that the war in Iraq is that the existing military is spread super thin and re-inlisting experienced soliders is more difficult. Even throwing a large amount of money doesnt work in most cases. You have soldiers that are on there second or third deplyment withthe same unit. People can only see how it effects the people who live in Iraq but there are more Americans that are effected by this than any one imagines.
2006-06-28 01:16:57
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answered by babe76 2
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we already took Iraq over in 2003. Do you remember when they were hitting Saddam's statue with their shoes? That's the ultimate insult for them. On the road, instead of giving you the finger, they take their shoe off and show you the bottom. Granted, it's not very safe to do that.
Everyone should hope it turns out ok regardless of whether they think it was right or wrong. It would be bad to hope for failure just so they can say they're right. It is beneficial for the world if stability reigns without brutality in that area in the future. So far, it would seem that the new PM is doing a good job. We should support him because he wants to bring everyone together and stop the fighting.
And thanks Mark W, that was very enlightening. Of course, everyone will completely ignor what you've written and just say, "It was all about the oil!"
2006-06-27 17:26:10
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answered by madbaldscotsman 6
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People who have no vision, and do not know their history feel it was a bad decision. When you go up in an airplane and travel to another country, you realize how small this planet is. We all live on the same block and injustice anywhere will ultimately affect us. I agree with 95% of the decisions Bush has made since he's been in office including declaring war on Hussein, Al Queida, the taliban, and insurgents. Only time will tell if he handled the war well.
2006-06-27 17:23:40
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answered by elthe3rd 4
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Because some people never see war as a solution, no matter what. The media will only tell what they want you to know, not the truth, and blame Bush.
Iraq's arsenal of weapons of mass destruction was not captured by US forces who heroically brought down Saddam Hussein's regime three years ago this week. It vanished before they arrived.
Israeli intelligence reported before the US-led invasion that starting in late summer 2002 Saddam's WMD arsenal was shipped by truck convoy to Syria. Recently, documents seized from Iraq after the fall of the regime were released to the public. Those documents revealed that under the direct command of former Russian prime minister and KGB boss Yevgeny Primakov, Russian Spetnaz forces oversaw the transfer of Iraq's WMD to Syria ahead of the US-led invasion. These reports have been corroborated by Saddam's Air Vice Marshall General Georges Sada.
So rather than being destroyed or secured, Saddam's WMD arsenal was simply moved from one rogue regime with intimate ties to terror organizations to another rogue regime with intimate ties to terror organizations.
Of course, American Media will NOT report this, it will prove Bush right, and then they would look stupid.
Michael Moore, thanks:
Friday, 23 June 2006
When News Lies
WHEN NEWS LIES
Media Complicity and The Iraq War
By Danny Schechter, The News Dissector
A new book from Danny Schechter offers an up to date indictment of the role media played in promoting and misreporting the war on Iraq. It is an analysis of how and why the media got it wrong that pinpoints the failures of journalism and the collusion of media companies with the Bush Administration. The author of EMBEDDED: Weapons of Mass Deception (Prometheus 2003), an account of the TV coverage of the US invasion, returns with a more comprehensive, updated and insider look at the media complicity that Schechter argues "made the war possible."
"Most of the anti-war movement focused on the crimes of the Bush Administration ignoring the mainstream media, its far more effective accomplice," says former network producer Danny Schechter (ABC, CNN). "The government orchestrated the war while the media marketed it. You couldn't have one without the other."
WHEN NEWS LIES includes the feature -length DVD of the prize-winning film WMD (Weapons of Mass Deception). The book will also include the complete script as well as a discussion of the challenges of exposing media with media with a documentary. It chronicles the media war fought alongside the military campaign and the struggle to stand up for truth.
Source(s):
Google it:
Saddam, WMD, Spetsnaz
http://www.wmdthefilm.com/mambo/index.ph...
2006-06-27 17:21:08
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answered by Mark W 5
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Because it is hard for democracy to take hold in a country that has never experienced any freedom before. Secondly this country never built a meaning full coalition before the invasion of Iraq. Third we sacrificed total domination for speed. What I mean is this; instead of carpet bombing Iraq into oblivion and then rebuilding it like Germany and Japan we attempted to shoestring our way through Iraq and thought that every Iraq citizen would automatically embrace democracy. Even though you attempt to keep civilian casualties to a minimum, if you look at history, unless a country is totally defeated they will attempt to due the same thing over and over.
Germany was never laid waste after WW I so she thought she could take on the world again. After WW II so far Germany has remained a peaceful democratic bulwark for Europe. Japan has never attempted to go to war again after WW II and even challenged the U.S. economically in the 80's and almost won. We are losing in Iraq because it is degenerating into a Civil War. And unless the new government of Iraq is completely fraud free, you will see the development of South Vietnam in Iraq. The U.S. more then likely have to stay as it has in South Korea to make sure that Islamic Extremists to not gain an upper hand in Iraq. If my fellow Americans would lose the need for oil you would see the middle east shrink in importance.
2006-07-04 17:22:46
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answered by BRY1970 2
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The war is widely seen as a bad decision due to the fact that it appears to have been started over knowingly false pretenses. Some detrimental consequences of this war are widely believed to be greater instability in an already unstable region, the creation of a truly terrorist state by insurgents, all-out civil war, and stoking anti-American sentiment amonst a people who already see us negatively. Many consider us to be losing due to the troops deaths, the inability to quell the insurgency, rapidly losing international allies, and mounting costs.
2006-06-27 17:25:29
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answered by hhsgrad98 2
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You obviously haven't lost a loved one over there. You also have to think about how many more terrorists we have made because of our occupation.
It's hard for the American people to take this as a good war because of all the lie's Bush and Cheney have told.
It also doesn't help that Bush and Cheney are oil guys and it seems weird that whenever an oil guy takes office we seem to find ourselves at war with another oil rich country and gas prices go up.
Another bad reason to be in Iraq is because all those soldiers over there could be put on the Afghanistan, Pakistan border to hunt down Bin Laden and the real al-quada.
Another reason is it sends a bad message. The reason is because Bush wants to screw us out of our social security because its "running out of money". But somehow he is able to crap out the hundreds of billions of dollars for the war.
And as for the greater good. Well if you own stock in Halliburton (Dick Cheney) than this war is for the greater good, FOR YOUR POCKET. If you have stock in the company who got a no bid fire fighting contract (Dick Cheney) in Iraq than its good.
If fighting this war is for the greater good than why doesn't George Bush send his daughters to Iraq to help the cause? Were's Cheneys Daughter? I don't see Rush Limbaugh sending his painkillers over to Iraq to help our wounded soldiers.
And you know who's laughing about all of this? Osama Bin Laden. He's gotta be riding high knowing most of our money and man power has gone into Iraq instead of searching for him.
Bin Laden Attacks us so lets invade Iraq. Thats like if your neighbor beats up your children but you go after your best friend.
2006-06-27 17:39:29
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answered by Anonymous
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