Do you think criminals have more rights than their victims.?

Question

Anti-social behaviour, violent drunks in our city centers,drug dealers, child rapists (cut their balls off) and burglars and muggers prowling our streets.
The magistrates have been told not to jail people for fear of overcrowded jails(boo hoo), whats going on.
The hard working tax payer who's worked hard and saved up all his life to have a nice home and some low life scrote comes along robs you and gets 40 hours community service but don't harm him or he'll sue you and he needs some help for his stress after robbing you....
Are we all too politicaly correct now or can we please have some law and order and look after the victimes and not the criminals.

Answer 1

yes we are too politcally correct, things like this let two pedo's go into a park with a video camera to film kids. When a) the are on parole in a bail hostel and b) one of them had only just been released on bail again the same day charged with new offences that he'd committed since his release from prison!! Makes you f**king sick that scum like this have more protection than our kids.. same goes for smack heads, thieves.. armed robbers etc..

Answer 2

Of course they do, they have to.
The victim should be treated with the best assistance available, obviously mental anguish can never be overcome.
The suspected criminal needs to be protected from the community and often himself. The penalties we place on crime whilst progressive (in some places) are still harsh enough to be a grave injustice if imposed on the innocent.
Once incarcerated, criminals need to be assured of a safe enviroment, we don't want accidental death for shoplifters.
Once a crime has been commited, there is little that can be done, except make it less likely to happen again. This does not involve revenge just logic. If someone is dangerous he needs to be somewhere he can't hurt people, we don't have the right to torture or kill.
The police differentiate between violent and non-violent crime. Not just the violence but detailed behaviour. Day or night burglaries for instance (both non-violent) will be treated differently by the courts.
40hrs community service for burglary suggest a first time offender, newly unemployed after having a previous good employment record, breaking the back window of a house he knows is empty, and taking only quick cash items.
With jail time, who is going to employ this young guy again, and the people he will turn to in frustration will be his 'new mates', armed robbers, murderers and rapists.

Yes, some sentences are a joke. But it's a good job we have a thousand years of laws and law reform to fall back on, rather than relying on a few fed-up individuals to ensure justice.
Perhaps when the frustration gets too much you can move to China or parts of Africa / S. America where you can get your revenge kick brutally in public, just remember to fortify your house, hire armed guards and carry a gun

Answer 3

Yes, you have a valid point.
Build a few more hard jails. Make the prisoners work - chain gangs to clean up the roads etc.
A cot to sleep on and a bucket for a toilet and a meagre 3 meals a day. No luxuries. Absolutely not. No tv etc.
A bit like Sureshank Redemption. Perhaps that might actually be a deterrent. Baddies aren't afraid of going to jail anymore.....
Even with human rights and the Geneva Convention, you could still do this. If you have the huevos.

Answer 4

yes they do an it is not right..an it is by no means helping them victims..people are always sayin that there is just not enough room in the jails ect. ....well I'm sorry but some 50 yr old rapst can go an kidnape an 7 yr old an rape an kill her..an theyd ont do anything or hes out of jail in 3 yrs..I mean come on what its happening to our world.?..these people are sickos an they need to be put away..an another thing that makes me sick is some of thses guys get sent to a mental center instaed of jail....that is bull..a rapist will always rape again..they deserve to go to jail were they can be *** raped an get their diick cut off an shoved down there mouth..they deserve to be punished an it is unfair to there victims who have to go through the trama an have issues an their lives messed up for the rest of their lives...not only havin that happen but then they have to find out that nothing is happen to the guy that has ruined them..the system has became bvery disappointing latly an its not right

Answer 5

Innocent until proven guilty is not a reality anymore, not sure if it ever was. Depending on the issues this answer could go either way. White collar crime criminals get more rights, duke rape case suspects had no rights at all. They were guilty in the eyes of the media and those jumping on the racial bandwagon (Jesse Jackson).

Tougher penalties are a good solution in my book. But not just for those convicted but also those who falsely accuse others.

Answer 6

when people talk about 'criminals' having more rights than victims they nearly always mean not 'criminals' but 'people who have been accused of a crime'.

a person who has been accused of a crime is clearly more at risk than someone who hasn't, they need more protection.

if we become hasty in prosecuting people on the merst of suspicions we shall rapidly end up with the kind of police state austro-hungary had between the 1890 and the beginning of wwi (read 'the good soldier svejk', or - even better - the novels of kafka). in such societies ordinary citizens are bullied relentlessly in a futile effort to suppress petty crime.

the people who benefit are real terrorists - who always thrive when popular justice is suspect and discredited. the ira, the taleban, and george bush' current administration have always been strong on lawn ordure.

as were the national socialists.

Answer 7

I think that criminals do seem to have more right than their victims, but not just because of political correctness. I suspect it more likely due to the fancy lawyers they get at the tax payers expense that know every right they can be entitled to and every loop hole in the law, and they play them all to the max to reduce their 'clients' chance of having to pay their dues for the bad they have done. Their are no such rights for the victims as they are not being prosecuted!

Answer 8

oh dear, cant believe the number of right wing nutters on here,

innocent until proven guilty mean anything?

We put criminals in prison to rehabilitate them to a level where they can be released back into society.

Removing undesireables from society permanantly and forcing them into hard labour has been done before. Type nazi concentration camps into goolge and see what it brings up.

Human rights apply to all, even those guilty of crimes and those accused of crimes. Stop reading the daily mail and grow up

Answer 9

Human rights should be given to people who are actually human.
Some of these criminals don't know the meaning of the word, human!

We have to take their Rights away until they are punished & re-habilitated. But the Judges, the government & the Law won't do that.
As consequence we're all suffering.

& I agree with you. Pervs should get a choice castration or hanged & let god sort it out!

Answer 10

I have seen footage on TV of prisons and Young Offenders Institutes and also have spoken to a Prison Officer about the conditions in prison. They have a much easier time and cushy living areas and facilities than I had in Boarding School!