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Paul(Saul) hated Christians so much he faked the whole Damascus road thing claimed to be an apostle and wrote his epistles contradictory to the old testament laws to lead people, unknowingly, away from God?

2006-06-26 13:42:55 · 31 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

31 answers

You know, the weird thing is that you have a great question that makes people think, and so many write mean things that have nothing to do with the question.

-sigh-

I apologize for them.

You deserve better.

2006-06-28 14:57:44 · answer #1 · answered by sharrron 5 · 0 3

Nope, could not happen. Paul did not hand down the verdict of the first genral church council, James (Jacob) did. The teaching of the council is in harmony with Orthodox Judaism today. They both claim that a gentile does not have to observe Jewish rituals in order to be righteous. Such as christians who hid Jews from the GESTAPO. Paul was the boy wonder of Judaism, had high connections in society and was poised for elevated postion at a very young age. He willingly gave all this up for the life of being slandered that he taught against Moshe, even though he testified to the Jewish council that he kept the law. Why give that up for a life of poverty and ill treatment ? He never taught any Jew to disobey the old testament, he merely explained its application for non Jews.

2006-06-26 21:06:49 · answer #2 · answered by Broadcaster 2 · 0 0

No. It's not possible.
For one thing, Apostle Peter was personally commissioned by Jesus.
He was told that whatever he says or binds or loosens on Earth, it's also done in heaven.
He was given the Keys to the Kingdom, and it was Peter that first preached the Gospel (ACTS 2), right after being filled with the Holy Ghost.
Concerning Apostle Paul, Peter said this...
II PETER 3:15,16
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Two witnesses is good enough for me.

2006-06-26 20:45:04 · answer #3 · answered by truebeliever_777 5 · 0 0

Hello thegreatwhit... :)

Saul hated Christians..but Paul Loved the Lord Jesus with all of His heart.. :)

Paul did not write anything contradictory to what Jesus taught..

Romans 2

6 who will render to every man according to his deeds: Ps. 62.12

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11 for there is no respect of persons with God. Deut. 10.17

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24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, Is. 52.5 as it is written.

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Romans 3

17 and the way of peace have they not known: Is. 59.7, 8

18 there is no fear of God before their eyes. Ps. 36.1

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Romans 5

Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Gen. 15.6

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Above is just but a very slight few quotes that Paul said from the Old Testement..

In Jesus Most Precious Name..
With Love..In Christ..

2006-06-26 20:55:35 · answer #4 · answered by EyeLovesJesus 6 · 0 0

Not a chance.

He was a willing assistant to having Christians murdered.

And then he became Christian.

Would a man go thorough the following...just to lead people in a false manner?

No.

2 Cor. 11:21-12:1 (NIV)
To my shame I admit that we were too weak for that!
What anyone else dares to boast about--I am speaking as a fool--I also dare to boast about. [22] Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they Abraham's descendants? So am I. [23] Are they servants of Christ? (I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. [24] Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one. [25] Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked, I spent a night and a day in the open sea, [26] I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my own countrymen, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false brothers. [27] I have labored and toiled and have often gone without sleep; I have known hunger and thirst and have often gone without food; I have been cold and naked. [28] Besides everything else, I face daily the pressure of my concern for all the churches. [29] Who is weak, and I do not feel weak? Who is led into sin, and I do not inwardly burn?
[30] If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness. [31] The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying. [32] In Damascus the governor under King Aretas had the city of the Damascenes guarded in order to arrest me. [33] But I was lowered in a basket from a window in the wall and slipped through his hands.
[12:1] I must go on boasting. Although there is nothing to be gained, I will go on to visions and revelations from the Lord.

2006-06-27 15:05:02 · answer #5 · answered by Red-dog-luke 4 · 0 0

There are other things out there.

True religion is not about safety, or the salvation of the individual from naked confrontation with suffering and pleasure and death and love.

True religion is about the difficult evolution and ultimate transcendence of the individual, and mankind, and Man.

Therefore, we must awaken from our self-protecting illusions of religious safety, and we must surrender to the Current of life in which the body and the mind are swimming forever.

There is no "Holy Substitute" for Man.

There is no "representative" sacrifice.

There is no true alternative to awakened consciousness and unqualified love in the case of each individual.

Every one of us is the necessary sacrifice of God.


CHAPTER SIX

The Secret Identity of the Holy Spirit of God

A Prophetic Criticism of Great Religions

The religious consciousness of Western Man is trapped within an archaic structure of myths, dogmas, and social conflicts that no longer serve the true religious and spiritual process of true Man. These myths are largely Christian, Judeo-Christian, and broadly Semitic in origin, and they are held in place by the large-scale cultural, political, and economic dominance of the ancient religions of the Middle East, including Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.

The dominance of specifically Christian cults, myths, and dogmas is especially apparent in Europe and America. And if the dominance of Judaism and Islam is less apparent in Europe and America, the power of these ancient cults is certainly apparent throughout the Middle East (with clear, practical effect on the rest of the world).

Man himself cannot awaken to his evolutionary spiritual Destiny until the spell of mythological and self-possessed thinking is broken. And the future whole bodily culture of Man, in which East and West will realize a new cultural Synthesis, cannot take place until all the old religions are surrendered to the higher Principle or Truth that is the ultimate Master of religion.

We tend to think of "religion" as a benign influence on individual thought and behavior, and this is indeed the case when the higher aspects of religious consciousness begin to inform the thought and behavior of any individual. But religion is only rarely found to be an influence of such a kind. Very few individuals become truly creative personalities, mystics, saints, or even reliably good men or women as a result of religious associations.

Religion is, in general, an exoteric cultic phenomenon that controls the thought and behavior of individuals through external and psychologically manipulative techniques. And the principal religious phenomenon that is common in the world is not true or free religious consciousness and benign behavioral habits on the part of individuals. The principal phenomenon of religion is the institutional "Church", or all the central and centralizing institutions that contain and otherwise manipulate broad and massive segments of the human population.

The "Church" (or the primary institution within any religious tradition) is religion, insofar as religion basically affects the world at large. And large-scale institutional religion is not primarily a benign power in the world. We have only to look at the cultural and political conflicts in Europe and the Middle East to see how the immense institutions of ancient religion have now become, for the most part, contentious, absolutist, and the sources of petty social conflicts. And the problem is made extreme by the immensity of these institutions, each of which controls millions of people.

2006-06-26 20:45:35 · answer #6 · answered by soulsearcher 5 · 0 0

No way Jose !!! I will testify to that from the truth of my own Salvation.

No I was not brrought up a bible thumper. It took till I was 53 to get to the point I would accept what God offers to all. I was as Paul. I cursed those holly Rollers... one minute I was'nt.... the next minute I was one.... And I was not even looking for God. But He called and I answered. I did not even own a Bible.

I accept email questions from honest seekers concerning the Christian Faith.

you may check me out at: www.mikesoutreach.com

2006-06-26 21:02:57 · answer #7 · answered by IdahoMike 5 · 0 0

No, I think not. The other apostles accepted him, for one thing. For another, he didn't write anything contrary to the Old Testament- he just explained how it was fulfilled in Christ. For a third thing, he went to his death for being a Christian when he could have recanted and saved his life. . . that's the action of a man who believes what he says, not of a hypocrite.

2006-06-26 20:58:11 · answer #8 · answered by Billy 5 · 0 0

Contradictory? Are you kidding? Have you read the epistles of Paul?

2006-06-26 20:47:33 · answer #9 · answered by luckyme 4 · 0 0

It wouldn't matter if that were true or not.Some people will believe whatever you tell them just so long as you tell them it's true and back it up with whatever man-made proof you can think of.I say, who cares?Let God be the judge and let him speak.If it wasn't for the fact that I do take much from the Bible to heart, I would say we should just do away with the whole book.

2006-06-26 20:49:13 · answer #10 · answered by BuckFush 5 · 0 0

Not.

First of all, what bible verses do you have that would back up such an absurd claim? Secondly, didn't Jesus also contradict ()or revise) some of the old testament laws?

2006-06-26 20:55:29 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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