Jesus advocates child abuse:?

Question

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” Matthew 15:4-7

Abandon your wife and children for Jesus and he’ll give your a big reward. Jesus asks that his followers abandon their children to follow him. To leave your child is abuse, it’s called neglect, pure and simple. Matthew 19:29

Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark 7:9

Answer 1

Whoa, and he wore sandals and never cut his hair or shaved. I bet he had lice in that beard. He sounds like what our parents were against in the 60's and 70's ! Pretty Groovy eh!

Answer 2

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did not intentionally take these verses out of context, as you did, and rather badly at that.

The 2nd of the three quotes is not advocating leaving your child; rather, it refers to what following Jesus will cost some people. Becoming a follower of Jesus has cost countless people family relationships, but I would submit that the abandonment in this case would be coming not from the Jesus follower but from those who refuse to follow.

The first and third quotes are covering the same situation in two different gospels. In context, Jesus was quoting two seperate passages of scripture (that's why annotations are a good thing) as an example of how the Pharisees were using the "traditions of the elders" (Matthew 15:2) and making them, in effect, new law.

Advocate of abuse? This is the same person who said in Matthew 18:6, But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

Answer 3

What kind of world would this be if it was full of disobedient children fully grown into adults running and ruining our planet. Isn't it best that such a rebellious life be destroyed before it comes into fruition as ultimate evil. Would you feel safe in a nursing home run by such children of wrath? For if a child can not obey a parent of whom that child supposedly loves, how can that child obey anyone else?

Matthew 19:29 words are spiritual. In other words if you have non-Christian parents, and you as a child of your parents become a Christian although they may disown you, then you are truley blessed in the kingdom of heaven for you have forsaken this earthly life which passes away and the lusts thereof, but he that does the willl of the Father lives forever.

Answer 4

I've repeated this many times on here......I feel that the bible is obviously a book of stories that have been made up or are OVERLY exaggerated. The people that take this book seriously are the ones in trouble. (not with God, just in life)

I believe God to be an all loving and forgiving God.
The words in the bible seem to be written by guys that hated how things were being handled.
If anyone believed in killing an innocent child for misbehaving or "being a child," that's the epitome of evil.

Answer 5

Did you read the passage before and after to make sure that this is the way that this was meant to be directed. People so often take passages from the bible and quote them to satisfy or justify their position. As we already know Satan has the ability to quote scripture, too. He did so in the desert during Christ's fast. He said, "If you are truly the Christ, jump from this ledge and prove it to me. For it says in God's word that he will give the angels charge over you." To which Christ simply answered, 'You should not put God to any foolish tests." Kind of like, don't expect God to save you from your own stupidity.
As to the abandonment of the children and wives...How is that any different than the father who has to go to war, or the father who has to go further from home to seek employment with a higher wage. HOW do you know that this is what is meant by this scripture?

Answer 6

please go back and re-read the Matthew 15:4-7...the pharisees were criticizing the disciples, not Christ, for not washing their hands before eating...His reply was not a criticism of not killing their children, but of their teaching that since whatever one has is a gift from God, it is not necessary to honor one's father and mother...He rightly pointed them out as hypocrites, saying "and in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men"...the point is that tradition is all well and good as long as we do not forget that "tradition" and "doctrine" created by a church, or a particular faith, or any person or group of people, however well-intentioned, cannot replace what the Lord has said.
as for the second passage cited, i think you're missing the point...Christ isn't telling people to abandon their children for a reward, He is saying that anyone who has had to give up all they have will be rewarded in heaven.
the third passage is the same as the first...think of the traditons of your particular faith...how many are truly Biblical, and how many are mere mere man-made customs and doctrines?

Answer 7

Is there a question here?
The bible is open to interpretation, and things can always be interpretted differently. Plus, he might have been speaking metaphorically, since I've often said I'm going to kill those kids, but I really didn't mean it. Die the death could be a poetic term for being ignored by family, I know I would feel like I was dying if my family abandoned me. You know, stuff like that, not to be taken literally.
Also, this was two thousand years ago and we've changed since then.

Answer 8

When reading the Bible, taketh not one single verse: please, begin reading at a logical point, such as the beginning of a paragraph or passage. For fear of having my words &/or meaning woefully twisted, that's really all I'm going to say, except for a little advice:
First, read the footnotes. Then go to the Catechism. Then ask a priest. They're a lot smarter than I am!

Answer 9

What is the point you are trying to make? For every instance like the one you indicate there are a hundred of Jesus valuing the lives of children. Jesus was a pacifist.

Answer 10

NOw you're either lying or not smart. Either way is bad.

27Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?

28And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

29And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Now this is not advocating child abuse...also, children were considered to be children for...well, ever. You were always your father's son. So this is not a big deal. Since it can be shown you were dishonest, I will not at this time deal with the others.

Answer 11

You have really really misunderstood the holy word Mr. Mad.

The word, thoughts and the deeds of God are higher than yours. So you cannot decide or describe the word of God at your imaginations as per your stupid thoughts.

I think you are a child abuser finding excuses. So you have let yourself died the death. No doubt!!!!!!

Good luck in hell Mr. Mad.