Is this the immigration forum, or the scream racism forum?

Question

Racism is third world thinking, and out dated in America. Racism belongs in America as much as Illegals do, and that is why we have laws against both.
Sadly, the only people I screaming racism are people who have no other excuse for what they know is wrong.
I seem to have to ask this question every time I come in this forum to ask questions on an important issue. Why do people have to be reminded how to communicate without critism.
Besides all of the name calling is just to keep people who want real answers from getting them.

Answer 1

Racism is only being screamed by the pro-immigrant people to enhance psychological warfare on peace loving Americans.

Answer 2

“The American slave was treated like property, which is to say, pretty well.” (from D’Souza’s book, The End of Racism)

this is the garbage that right wingers write and believe, this issue is no different.

The claim that immigrants can "swamp" a local population is noted to be related to birth rate, relative to nationals. The "swamping" argument has racist undertones as they are typically directed at immigrants from developing countries.
That is racism.

Racism refers to various belief systems maintaining that humans can be separated into various groups based on physical attributes and that these groupings determine or influence cultural or individual achievement or the essential value of human beings.

You are ignoring these people you call "illegals" and "criminals" because of racist ideology.

In the USA we do not act this way, we know that many laws are broken, the irony is that the most harmful, most exploitive people (the corporations and employers) who hire migrants are overlooked by people like you. Instead, you choose to focus on the victims of this exploitation, those who are typically fleeing a very bad situation to come here to work. Plus, you ignore the US policies and actions that created this exploitive capitalist economic situation in the first place.

By doing so you scapegoat so-called "illegals" and you cave in to the will of a capitalist, exploitive system that harms you also. You divide the working class and you work on the side of the tyrants.

You are greedy and you express this greed in the form of anti-immigrant racism.

refocus your anger, deal with yourself, get educated on the facts, learn.

The Department of Homeland Security estimates that 75 percent of immigrants in the U.S. have legal permanent visas. Of the estimated 25 percent who are undocumented, a large portion--as much as half, according to a 2004 report by the General Accounting Office--didn’t cross the border “illegally,” but simply overstayed temporary visas.

Overall, the U.S., the wealthiest nation on the planet, takes in only about 2 percent of the world’s total immigrant population. And today, the percentage of the U.S. population that is foreign-born is lower than it was 100 years ago.

Answer 3

Good point and well said! Bravo! If you have noticed only the people who are pro criminal/supporter are the only ones who say that. It doesn't matter to them if it is true or not. What if the shoe were on the other foot? What if people were invading their country by the millions and draining their resources? What if the same leeches were not paying any taxes but still getting all of the government handouts, while being illegal IN THEIR COUNTRY?!!! That would go over like a lead balloon. Nobody who gives a damn about their country would appreciate it but we are insulted and called names because we voice our outrage! I know I am on the right side. Let them say what they want.

Answer 4

Of course, this is a very heated issue right now and people get very passionate either for the illegal immigrants or against them and there are very few middle of the road people on this issue.

Obviously, there is very little anyone can say to support breaking laws, so those who support illegal immigrants seem to be the ones to jump to the conclusion that anyone who wants all illegal immigrants deported, who are against any illegal immigrants receiving amnesty (amnesty that isn't amnesty, of course), and/or the "fast track to citizenship," are racist or bigots, because they can't come up with any valid, reasonable, logical reason why illegal immigration is okay.

It is very obvious to me on this forum that pro illegal immigrants are either romantically involved with an illegal immigrant, have friends who are illegal immigrants, are illegal immigrants themselves, own a business in which they benefit from the cheap slave labour of illegal immigrants, or they are wealthy and so the many negative effects of illegal immigration doesn't touch them, such as because they are able to send their children to private school, they can afford medical care for themselves and their families with private doctors so aren't held back by the illegals causing ERs to close down, and being wealthy, they themselves don't pay much taxes due to all the tax dodging loopholes for the wealthy and they don't mind that the illegal immigrants don't pay their share of taxes for all the social services they use, or they are just plain able to live in areas of fewer illegal immigrants and so they don't realize that illegal immigrants are here in the huge numbers that they are.

Meanwhile, some of those here who are anti illegal immigrants sometimes get a little over-zealous and do post things that even myself (who is anti illegal immigrants) find distasteful and cross the line of being sensible and humane. As well, there are some posters on here who are pro illegal immigrants who post things like, "Get used to it you American pigs, we are taking over - we are reclaiming the land you stole from Mexico, etc." Or, "We do the work you fat, lazy Americans won't or can't do!" Or, "How would you like to pay $10 for a head of lettuce, without the illegals here!" Etc. Anyways, these postings are obviously meant to draw hatred and they obviously do, at times, when you see some of the answers that come to those postings.

Like any important topic, there are always extremists at both ends of the spectrum. You have to learn to ignore the extremists and realize that they are NOT the mainstream. I have learned which posters are only on here to try to draw blood or raise hackles and I don't even read their questions anymore. I go to the ones that I have learned are middle of the road and who actually have some insight into the problem and are trying to solve the issue reasonably. I report those who are reportable due to violation of the rules of this forum.

I can see that you are seeking the feelings of the American people on here for the good of helping resolve this problem and it seems to me that you are possibly in politics and so I hope you will be able to sift through the garbage on here and use the valuable information and input that you find in a positive way to help solve this problem.

God bless you to help in any way that you can and anyone else here who can be reasonable and lawful in their suggestions and ideas, and ignore the ignorant. Thank you!

Answer 5

Its a sad phenomenon that liberals often screams racism (or some other buzzword) than actually debating the topic. Dennis Prager has a great article on this at the link.

Answer 6

The only one screaming racest comments are yars232 and a couple buddys Posing with mexican sounding user names you deside what groups they align with I would rather not say as not to add to it.
real Americans are not nazi simpathisers and racest this is a matter for americans to stomp out of america mexicans are not the ones spewing hateful ideas in the name of americans everywhere..

Answer 7

I think "enlightenment" needs to be ENLIGHTENED!!!! The people who are USING the "racist" term,are the REAL racists!!!! They have NO defense for the CRIMINAL behavior of illegals,so they do the NAME CALLING thing! People who are proillegal,KNOW they are WRONG,when it comes to supporting illegals. They KNOW that anyone who SNEAKS into this country ILLEGALLY,is a CRIMINAL!!! And the ones who are doing all the name calling, either ARE illegal,have friends/relatives who are,or they just have NO clue what the issue it about!!!

Answer 8

CORRECTION:.......IT IS A FORUM........I was wrong.....and I ALWAYS admit when I am. Man.....I am so glad I know that now

First off its NOT a forum...its a question and answer and second I am VERY Pro and yet very seldom call anyone a racist.

It really annoys me when people say that anyone who is against their views are racist or bigoted.

Oh and wait......the ONLY people you see screaming RACIST are the ones who are Pro.....I don't see that.....I do see ALOT of people TELLING us we say that though.

Answer 9

RACIST!! RACIST!! RACIST!!!

Sorry Dude - I just had to do that... I don't know what came over me! I don't know what the heck they get out of it - it didn't do nothin' for me except make me thirsty for a domestic American beer! No Corona's here! (Hey - if you can't drink their water, why the hell would we drink something made with it?!)

Hey! If ben s moves over a little to the right I bet I can take a crap on enlightenments head from up here! Bombs away!!

Answer 10

This is a distinction without a difference. As long as we can regain control of our sovereinty and our borders then the end will happily justify the means.