Should we only help our own kind/Country?

Question

I have heard more and more comments about Mexican illegal immigrants using a guide called a "coyote" to help them cross into the US. They say "How can an illegal afford $2000 to come into the US, yet the reason they are coming is because they are poor?" Where here is the answer. They have a friend or family member in the US wire the money to them in Mexico, they then pay the coyote and come,work, and pay the person back. Why am I telling you this? Because I am tired of hearing it! They ARE poor in most places in Mexico and live at a poverty level much worse than our own ghettos. If you went to central or south Mexico (not acapulco) and met them you would see that it IS bad, it is not uncommon for people to have no bathrooms, no running water, no cars, no food unless they grow/raise it themselves. Things are changing now that they are sending money home. So my question is: Why be so upset that immigrants are helping others, even if they are not from the US?

our own kind= our race
our own country= USA

I think what most "supporters of illegals" as you call them are saying is that there is NO REASON to be a poor American, we have opportunities out the wahzoo! If you want money, it is easy to get, just work hard! In Mexico you can work hard, you just dont get a tenth of the money you do here!

If they are poor and starving in the ghettos, why dont they use welfare or get a F***ing job! Seriously, the opportunities ARE THERE! I grew up poorer than I would have liked, but we ate, my parents both worked and we lived in a trailer park. What I am talking about is not what I went through being poor, but what my husband did in Mexico, no water, no heat, a house made of dirt blocks, on a dirt street, not getting meat everyday, eating what they could grow on their dry land! You just have no idea!

Nice that people would rather insult me than to actually read and answer the question. I am truly sorry that it is so long.

I dont know any coyotes nor do I support them. And that is peSo.

Wow, you people really are inhumane, if they are not like you and from your country you really dont give a sh*t if they live or die. I dont know why I thought anyone would understand, you live in your American bubble and will die there middle-class and full of hate. I wonder what it would be like if you were dying and the only person to help was a illegal Mexican person. Would they help you? Maybe not if they KNEW you.

interesting argument. I could stand to have people break in and clean my house/do my yard work.

Answer 1

I have gone to Mexico before, unlike amy of the people here who comment on it ignorantly.

On the beach in Tijuana, a corrugated border wall that extends about 100 feet into the ocean divides the U.S. from Mexico. The wall divides two different worlds.

On the Tijuana side, the barrier is covered by a memorial to those who died trying to cross into the U.S. While we were on the beach during a recent visit, small children ran up to us begging for food.

That same day, an injured seal washed up on shore on the U.S. side. San Diego’s Sea World immediately sent a rescue crew in a Land Rover. Aquarium employees assured us that the seal would be transported safely to Sea World, where it would be fed and its injuries tended to.

The contrast with the future that faces human beings on the other side of the wall couldn’t be more obvious. More than half of Mexico’s population lives at or below the official poverty line. Many survive on less than 1,200 calories a day--half of what’s considered necessary to remain healthy.

Of course, this isn’t because there’s not enough food. The real source of the poverty is an economic system that depends on competition between Mexican and American workers.

That’s why the U.S. has turned its border with Mexico into a militarized zone--with Border Patrol agents armed with the latest weapons. Since 1994, the US administration has poured money into border enforcement. The effect has been to make crossing into the U.S. more dangerous than ever--leading to increased deaths among Mexicans whose only "crime" was to want a better life.

We Americans, rolling in our over-abundance of money, food, and basically anything we want we can get attitude should be ashamed to not welcome these people in.

There is no "immigrant crisis" at all. It is a myth. It is a political move aimed at US citizens anger and predjudice, aimed to rile up people and direct thier discontent over the quagmire in Iraq and the Katrina neglect, and the corporate fleecing of our economy... It works, poor people are easy scapegoats, all of the people who buy into this nonsense about a "crisis" should hang thier heads in shame. Especially the ones who support these neo-nazi hategroups like the MinuteKlan.

Answer 2

I have been to Mexico several times and yes they have poor people but so do we, but I have never seen someone that looked underfed over there, especially the children. The babies I seen were fat and looked very healthy, and all the children I seen were healthy looking. The ones I see on T.V. crossing the border are wearing better looking shoes and clothes then a lot of Americans can afford. The folks south in Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador are mostly poor people, and are going to Mexico to take the jobs that Mexicians won't do.
Why be upset you ask.. Because we have a lot of poor in our own country that we can't even take care of. We have people here that work 10 and 12 hours a day and pay medical insurance, but can't afford to make their copays if they take a lot of medicines or have more members in the family on meds. I have seen people get very sick because of this, some end up dying. Some also don't even have medical insurance because they cant afford it, but they don't qualify for aid either, so they just dont go to the doctor at all. Yet my friends from Columbia, not American citizens) have jobs here, no insurance and can go to the doctor for 10.00 and get cheap medicines. It just doesnt seem fair.
If they want to come here they need to stop sneaking in and do it the legal way. Why is that too much to ask? One of my best friends is a Mexican / American and he is very much against illegals. He says they need to abide by the law, and he understands why Americans get upset about it.

Answer 3

Questions like this are childish, when people are trying to talk about criminals claiming to be immigrants.
As a tenth generation American whose husband is a third generation American Mexican, whose grandparents migrated here legally. I am again asking you to stop associating criminals with immigrants. No one is argueing with anyone as to whether immigrants are good hard working, temp, or permant citizens.
Illegals, are criminals, not immigrants.
Immigrants are honorable people, who respect the country they are entering, and even if they are poor, which most are, they endure the process.
Illegals have not earned the right to be called immigrants, and they are only using a people that have already been hurt enough, and have earned the right to be here.
I don't care what country an illegal comes from. They are criminals, and do not belong in America. And, it is America's duty to protect our immigrants from such a defilement.
If I have to use my American Heritage, and encourage others to do the same, our government will listen. The American Heritage Act declares that since I am more than a forth generation American I can make myself exempt from all federal taxes, and federally imposed state tax, and if others follow my lead the government will be looking to illegals to cover the trillions of tax dollars that will be lost
Americans can get the form from the IRS, the forms are free. I believe you can even order them online at the IRS web site. If you don't know what that web site is your not from America, and you sure are not here legally.

Answer 4

It is clear you have never seen our ghettos. Not at all. They have no heat or water of food often- and they can't raise goats. There are not programs for everyone. And it is clear you haven't check that out too. If there were -someone isn't telling them. We have people here homeless and in the freezing cold. We have people starving. We have sick dyeing because they can not get their medical needs. Thousands and thousands--check the web under homeless too start. It is clear you have yet to do this-or refuse to acknowledge it. Even talks (Oprah-check her site)have showed the poor here who are getting poorer because others are taking. There are places in America that have no schools and beg for just a book. Mexico has no claim to be the poorest.
And many believe we owe it to these people first. Maybe you don't care about the poor here but they do feel slighted by people like you. and I think they have reason to be. Do you feed your neighbors poor dog and let yours starve?

And I have know families who had to guard their babies at night from the rats.
You think all of them don't want to work? And all can get benefits? Take a trip down there and ask them why they live like that and tell them what you think. Than let me know.

Answer 5

You seem to have the attitude that most people are saying they don't want Mexican immigrants in this country. I think the majority of reasonable American citizens don't have a problem with immigration. The trouble is the way the illegals are trying to bypass the proper channels.
Think about this:
Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me
in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the
beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors;
I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest
(except for when I broke into your house)."

According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must
add me to your family's insurance plan and provide other benefits to me
and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is
hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part). If you try
to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will
picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there. It's
only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm
just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest ... um,
except for ... well, you know. And what a deal it is for me!! I live in
your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and
there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness,
prejudice and being anti-housebreaker.

Answer 6

Child: You are mistaken. Our system does not work the way you describe. Our poor here are just as poor or poorer than most in Mexico. And no it is not that easy. You really do need to educate yourself you are way off base.
I am assuming you have ties with some from Mexico so you defend them. No one can blame you for that. But you are very wrong about the poor here, very wrong. And yes a trip to the slums for a day could change your views.
You do need an education about the poor here. And it is apparent to many.

Answer 7

You are saying that you endorse the "coyote"? Why, they are the worse kind of people. They often leave illegal immigrants in inhumane situations at the border. If you are an advocate to a coyote, then you should be ashamed of yourself. You a not a humanitarian at all. Also, if their family members are sending US dollars and funding Mexico, in 10 years I will hate to see what the exchange rate of the US dollar will be. Americans may soon be living on the exchange rate of a Peco, and maybe you'd be happy that we will all be starving... Thanks for your humanitarian efforts.

Answer 8

Sugarpie said it perfectly. We should help our own first. Americans first. There is nothing racist about that. I was raised up very poor. We never had money for anything. I know what it is like to be destitute. We have poor people here. For some reason, the supporters of illegals want to pretend that there is no such thing as a poor American.

Answer 9

I think what pisses most Americans off is that Mexico should be taking care of its own. The government is corrupt, and they're out in OUR streets protesting??! Carrying MEXICAN flags?! Don't come here and screw up our country! Fix Mexico, dammit!! They've got an oil reserve that's 6th largest in the world, right behind Iran! Natural resources - more per square mile than we have here. And all that money - to the tune of 41 BILLION per year going to Latin America (Mexico getting over half ) is in essence plundering our National Treasury! Yes, you should help your own country... and stop hurting ours!

Answer 10

Mr . boof is right mexico is not a poor country and the tax payers of America are paying for mexico's corruption and all the while these ungrateful people shove a mexican flag in our face and demand demand demand well they will see where that will get them Americans are fed up they have shown their true colors and they are not red white and blue so go be proud of mexico in mexico