So, basically, the story goes that Satan got too proud and decided to wage war against God to take the throne. Stories are all in the apocrypha and hints of it are littered in the old testament. But, it's weird, because you know how God sorta made like, everything? Well, that would incude Satan and his following rebel angels. And angels have no free will. It is commonly accepted they are entities designed and programmed to praise and serve the holy man himself. So, this means God created satan to rebel? It would have to, wouldn't it? This means that, since God created and satan, and created satan to rebel, and since satan was sent to earth and waged eteranl war on man by creating sin, that God, in effect, created sin. and evil and blah blah blah... What's the deal?
2006-06-25 14:29:05 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I am always looking for a "johnny blaze" question. They are always unique and thought provoking. I highly recommend that you read "Memnoch The Devil", by Anne Rice. While I would never suggest that such an important question as this be answered by a popular novel, this book does explore your inquiry. Like Anne Rice, I had a young child die. During the intitial phases of my devastation, I read this book. To me, Ms. Rice completely explained the whole God-Devil relationship and even how God can let someone's kid die...after he saw his own child's death. Keep up the questions...they are awesome.
2006-06-26 08:19:31 · answer #1 · answered by Chainsawmom 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
you are on the right path, Isaiah 45 claims, that God created, PURPOSEFULLY both good and evil. The Old Testament, as you call it, actually says nothing about Satan rebelling though, though it might be in the translations as such. In the Hebrew though, the morning star was a poem to be resighted about the King of Babylon i believe, might not have been babylon. Isaiah 14 is the story. Says very clearly who it is about, and the fact of him being a man explains him having to ascend to heaven and place his throne amongst the stars of heaven, and he will be like the most high. This is about a mortal man, not Satan. Satan IS an entity created, not to rebell against God, but as the means which God metes out punishment to humanity. Yes God can do it HIMSELF, HE could have also created the universe in 1 day rather then in 6, and resting on the 7th. This is how HE made it. HE metes out punishment through the use of Satan. In other words, God and Satan are NOT at war, and there was NO rebellion, that is christian folk lore crap. Thank you
2006-06-25 21:43:21 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
study the mythology of other cultures. You cant tell a good story without a bad guy or no one would read it. That doesn't make the point of the story or the deeper lesson it conveys untrue. If we are greedy lust-full sloth full angry Etc etc then we create Hell in our own hearts. Satan is metaphor, for what we are when we hurt ourselves and others.
God is perfect pure and does not create evil or throw his children on fires. We do a good enough job of that ourselves. People don't like to look at there own defects of character. If we have a fallen angel to blame it lets us continue being Bad then we can blame Satan they miss the whole point of what Jesus was saying.
2006-06-25 21:42:59 · answer #3 · answered by Rich 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
it goes back to "could God create a rock so heavy he couldn't lift it" type of thing. why if God was the creator, and knows everything, did he create Satan and the whole thing knowing that Satan was going to rebel yet knowing that Satan was going to lose. Seems to me something ain't quite right here.
maybe the real truth is not everything you read is always so clear cut. maybe there are no powerful all knowing creators out there. or maybe God has purposes we cant even began to fathom out there. the trick is..what do you want to believe?
2006-06-25 21:40:08 · answer #4 · answered by centurion613 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The angels in Heaven were tested by God. They were allowed to see God's plan for the Creation of Man and the Incarnation of His Son, Jesus Christ. Lucifer, who had the highest seat of all the Angels in Heaven was repulsed by God's Divine Plan, and declared "Non Serviam! NO! I will not serve!" Particularly,because God made it clear that "Unto the Name of Jesus, every knee shall bend and every head shall bow, in Heaven and in all the Earth".
God made Man to be higher than the Angels, because He made him in His Own Image. Man was created with an immortal soul,
capable of attaining Heaven for all eternity.
Hence, Satan and his angels are consumed with envy for Man; having known the Glory of Heaven, and now cast out of it forever.
Sin is not a creation, but rather the "lack of" something.
To live a life on earth in the state of Mortal Sin, is to live a life at enmity with God and Man: a life without Love.
To die in Mortal Sin is to spend eternity without Love, and specifically, without it's Author: GOD, FOREVER and FOREVER
You are correct, we are "designed " to praise Him, love Him and serve Him, in this world, and in the next. Programmed? NO.
You've got a choice; God or Mammon. Your soul is a vessel created for Love. If you do not choose Love, then you choose Sin
the lack there-of. "You might serve the Devil, or you might serve the Lord, but yer gonna serve somebody."
2006-06-25 22:19:49 · answer #5 · answered by Rumer 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The major mistake in your theory is that angels do not have free will. If Lucifer did not have free will, then he would not have been able to rebel. His free will allowed him to think that he was better than God.
If the other angels did not have free will, they would not have been able to follow Lucifer in his rebellion.
Read your Bible more closely, Satan is mentioned in other books of the Bible than in the apocrypha.
2006-06-25 22:10:45 · answer #6 · answered by Marty 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
check Anunaki PDF
in a search engine is a none biblical view of Satan's predicaments,
actually Satan used to be Pan a respectable class one God of Nature ,Jehova stole his domain and slandered Pan ,now renamed Satan ,making him the number one baddie,so that he would not be reproached for the theft
a little like Bush did in the middle east to steal the oil
it is from the same people so you can expect similar strategies
2006-06-25 21:39:03 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
God gave free will, right?
He created the angels, including Lucifer..who is now Satan..Lucifer also had his freedom to think..so he envied the Lord..etc..
they're not robots to be programmed you know..
It was Lucifer's choice..it's all part of God's plan..don't meddle..
2006-06-25 21:45:16 · answer #8 · answered by SiLvEr020 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yep, god is ultimately responsible for all evil. In Christianity, god is supposed to be all good but it's obvious that he's not. It's a paradox and Christianity just doesn't work no matter how you look at it.
2006-06-25 21:33:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
simple Gods Plans Couldnt happen without a catylist and as he cant do evil in himself he has satan to do it as a job and so we can be saved because satans on the job wierd isnt it
2006-06-25 21:36:11 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋