We are human --
Example, do you understand your cat? Can you model your cat based on scientific logic?
If you were a cat, would you understand your cat? So as a human you can't understand a cat, how are you going to understand God?
This answer does not apply to church of scientology or mormons (who are going to turn into gods someday)
2006-06-25 04:51:28
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answer #1
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answered by ic3d2 4
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He's not beyond the understanding of scientific logic.
You essentially need to find evidence of a non-corporeal being who is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.
Therein lies the problem. God isn't appearing on any radar, under any microscope, or even on someone's home video. As such, it makes proving His existence quite difficult, and could lead to the conclusion that such a being does not exist. (At the very least, the god described in the Bible probably does not exist. However, a god could exist, but not necessarily the way religion describes. A lifeform that has a thousand year technological headstart would clearly be god-like in our minds.)
Here are some scientific questions; how does a non-corporeal being, who is all powerful, all knowing, and everywhere exist? How does he sustain himself? Where does he get his power, energy, knowledge, and the ability to be everywhere at once? How does he retain conciousness without a body?
How did he get to be all knowing? Where did he come from? Concious entities cannot merely will themselves into existence.
How can such a thing survive beyond space and time?
As you can see by my questions, God (or any gods) is not beyond scientific inquiry. Essentially, the question is moot at best, or unanswerable in a scientific context.
So science avoids pissing off religions by not exploring such questions, but to understand a god scientifically, such questions must be answered, and answered in the context of a universe that follows strict physical laws in the universe we live in. Additionally, the evidence about any god has to be observable.
I'd wager that if God were real, he'd show himself or signs of himself in clearly observable ways, not through secret and mysterious ways, and in a fashion that is unmistakable. There'd be no reason for him to be hidden.
What matters is what your faith tells you, and what kind of person you are.
Love all. Serve all.
Peace.
2006-06-25 05:01:15
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answered by dgrhm 5
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Do you honestly believe that Science has discovered everything there is to discover? Do you believe that in 100 years Scientists will have learned nothing new? Nothing that we already don't know?
Are there no new energies? No new particles? No new physics out there to be discovered?
I think that there are physical things out there that we as a species haven't even imagined the types of detectors we will need to discover them yet. If the universe in it's entirety is currently beyond our understanding of scientific logic, how then could God not be?
200 years ago we didn't even know x-rays existed. They did but we had no sense that could feel/see/observe them. We invented film and a bit of radioactive matter clouded that film and we had seen the physical effect of an energy we can not directly see but can now measure. What will be next?
If there are things uncounted about the creation that we have yet to understand, how much moreso the Creator.
2006-07-08 05:14:50
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answered by Saphira 3
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no one can say that God is merely a force of nature that is pure energy without personality in one sentence and declare that He is Love in the next. Love is an attribute of personality just as choice is. No example of a nonpersonal entity making a decision can be determined. When energy goes one way or another it is only following a natural course and no choice whereas the nature of love is that it chooses to act upon a specific object and at other times not. This is only possible by agents of moral conduct. This is both understandable and falls in line with logic. So where is the lack of understanding such a fundamental principle. Scientific Logic shows the existence of irreducible complexities in the universe both in the macro and micro cocmos which points to an intelligence we call God. Its not beyond our ability to discover only beyond our arrogant insistence of anything but God.
2006-06-25 05:13:54
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answered by messenger 3
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First, the human mind cannot handle an infinty of possibilities. So we categorize our observations and call it science.
We are wonderful observers, and we have used our observations to greatly improve our lives. But we fail when we attempt to unearth basic laws behind out observations. All theory eventually fails and is replaced. There is no such thing as empirical proof. We do not know what electricity is, or light. or gravity. If you doubt that, just wait until there are new observations that don't fit current theories and watch the theories change. Such is the entire history of science.
Newtonian theory did not get us to the moon. Fine tuning ten thousand failures did.
So God is beyond scientific logic because of our flawed perception that scientific logic is God.
2006-06-25 05:28:01
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answered by ALLEN F 3
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The question of His existence is NOT beyond the exercize of logic (see St. Thomas Aquinas' Five Arguments).
But what is He like? Now THAT'S another kettle of fish altogether. To find out about God's philosophy, His psychology, His feelings through logic? Nope, no can do. Your only recourse is to look for revelations from God Himself where He tells you what kinda guy He is.
Personally, I've always felt that if A) He wasn't into revealing Himself or B) the reveal showed me someone I'd rather avoid, I'd probably have become a theistic atheist, that is, I'd have accepted His existence, but I wouldn't ever bring Him home to meet the folks. Sorta like I feel about bin Laden, in fact.
But, what He has revealed about Himself through Jesus and Scripture tells me that I want to know this Trinity, I want to stay real close and personal with this Trinity.....I just luh huvv this Trinity. And THAT is waaaaay beyond anything logic can do.
2006-06-25 04:58:05
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answered by Granny Annie 6
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Because God doesn't fit into a nice neat little box, as you would like God to. God is the formless, genderless eternal energy source that is the process of all life. Not a being. Not an old guy with a long white beard in flowing robes. God doesn't sit around in a throne in some heaven in outer space and judge and condemn us. God is pure love. You can't see love. You can't measure it. You can only feel it. It's not logical, but it exists.
2006-06-25 04:53:11
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answered by LindaLou 7
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Suppose you are on a road and you cannot ever turn around and never return from whence you came. You come to a fork in that road and you must go forward and thus you must choose one of the roads. Suppose you see other people and you ask them which road you should take. Now suppose that you get different advice, but a "few" people tell you You are on the road of life. You must make choices every day of your life.
that they have "heard" from others that the left fork holds dangers and that there is a very high priced toll booth, but "nobody" knows anything about the right fork, and they are taking that one.
These are just rumors, right?
Who would you believe? Which road will you take?
Will you take the road that is rumored to be dangerous? Or the road, about which, no one knows or ever heard?
2006-07-07 23:04:04
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answered by ed 7
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He exists in wisdom beyond the reach of scientific logic so far. There may come a day on which we can see him. The matter is of our eye sight frequency range.
2006-07-08 22:20:28
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answered by latterviews 5
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It's simple - it would be logically impossible to prove that a being is omnipotent. You would have to be omniscient to know if there was anything this being couldn't do.
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Therefore, God [at least as the truly omnipotent being] exists outside of the realm of science. He would be like infinity - which exists in math as a concept, but not a true numerical value that can be counted to.
2006-06-25 04:55:51
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answered by Lunarsight 5
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