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The following is a quote from the 2000 Encyclopædia Britannica, Volume 11 ; page 390.
"During the later periods of Roman history, sun worship gained in importance and ultimately led to what has been called a 'solar monotheism.' Nearly all the gods of the period were possessed of Solar qualities, and both Christ and Mithra acquired the traits of solar deities. The feast of Sol and Victus (open unconquered Sun) on December 25th was celebrated with great joy, and eventually this date was taken over by the Christians as Christmas, the birthday of Christ." Notice how it says "both Christ and Mithra acquired the traits of solar deities"? The Christians were apparently trying to get more converts so they tried to "paganize" the Messiah to make Him more attractive to pagans. They even officially brought the feast of the unconquered sun into their worship in 336 AD. This is the origin of Christmas.But the real question is, "Who converted who?"
2006-06-24
18:22:06
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The truth is that the Messiah was not born on December 25th. December 25th is the birthday of nearly every pagan god ever invented! In fact, the pagan customs associated with Christmas are clearly condemned in the scriptures. Paganism/Idolatry is something that is against Yahweh. If we know that the roots of Christmas are of pagan origin, shouldn't the roots of our worship be in the scriptures, rather than paganism?
Consider these scriptures: Jere 10:1 (NKJV) . Hear the word which Yahweh speaks to you, O house of Israel. 2 Thus says Yahweh: "Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, For the Gentiles are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are futile; For one cuts a tree from the forest, The work of the hands of the workman with the ax. 4 They decorate it with silver and gold; They fasten it with nails and hammers So that it will not topple.
2006-06-24
18:26:09 ·
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Mabe we werent to celebrate Jesus's birth anyway, since God didn't tell us the day he was born on. By the way Birthdays were established by Ceaser which are also another pagan day established by an evil ruler! If you love God and his word don't you think it is important to follow what it says?
2006-06-24
18:31:16 ·
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Final thoughts:
I think Christmas is a poor excuse to celebrate Jesus. We are warned in the bible to stay away from Gentile Traditions. Christians liked the idea of Christmas so they added Jesus to it so it could be accepted when really in a way its pagan God Worship. I suggest for you to learn the orgin of your holidays and ask God if it honors him? God hates idols and idoltry and thousands of years ago thats what Christmas stood for PAGAN IDOL WORSHIP and teh same goes for Easter.
If you are a Christian I suggest on doing a little research for yourself and then when you know the truth you can do what you want with it. However don't celebrate something you don't know the roots of or do it because your family has done it for years. AMEN!
2006-06-24
18:40:42 ·
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ITS A DECEPTION FROM THE DEVIL
2006-06-24
18:41:59 ·
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WHY ARE MUSLIMS ANSWERING HERE?
I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO WITH MUSLIMS YOU BLEW ARE TRADE CENTER UP AND YOUR KORAN IS FULL EVIL THE DEVIL- PLEAE GO TO YOUR MUSLIM BOARD THIS IS FOR FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST NOT MOHAMMAD-
2006-06-24
18:49:57 ·
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INFO ON EASTER=Its evil to. Easter celebrates the God of Ishter. Or something like that. If you want to celebrate Jesus's Death and Resurrection then you want to celebrate PASSOVER.
Please Christians put all the glitter aside and the easter bunnies and ask despite our selfish wants does this go aganist our Lord Jesus Christ and Gods OWN Commands?
If God is the same yesterday, Today and Tommarow, then why would he let us participate in this pagan garbage which breaks the commandemnt
Thou Shall Have no other Gods Before Me
I think these Holidays fall into that commandment- Dont You?
2006-06-24
18:58:35 ·
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I agree
so-called christians are not following the Bible..only traditions of man
If the date of Jesus birth were important, dont you think it would be recorded? Can anyone find a record of Jesus birth being celebrated in the Bible?....I dont think so.
This is because God's people were aware of the pagan roots of birthday celebrations...
What is most important concerning Christ and his redeeming mankind is his sacrificial death.
Certainly there are records of that in the Bible. Jesus gave the command to remember him (Lu 22:19) this was a new celebration to replace the Passover of the old Mosaic Law
(every Nisan 14..which falls 14 days after the new moon following the spring equinox--according to the lunar calendar used at that time)
2006-06-25 01:16:49
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answered by WannaKnowMore? 2
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I've been watching these answers as they've come in. We cannot ascertain the actual date of Jesus' birth... it was too long ago for us to figure out. The gifts given are to honor other people and to be servants. I def agree that the date may have been chosen for convenience. The meaning of Christmas means more than the origins. The date (year) of the first Christmas celebrations are several years after Jesus' time ( you mention 336 as one). So the beginnings were relatively unconnected.
I've heard Pagan explanations for a lot of Christian origins, but nothing can deny the fact that history and reason both provide evidence for Jesus' life and support claims made by the Bible. The things that occur after the Bible, like the institution of the Christmas holiday, are human institutions, not God-created or God-ordained manifestations.
2006-06-25 01:34:32
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answered by disciple1987 2
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I am Christian, but I certainly DO NOT celebrate Christmas.
There is no escaping it: Christmas is of pagan origin. Instead of Christianizing paganism, these customs paganized Christianity. During the 1600’s, the Puritans became so disturbed over the obviously pagan nature of Christmas that the holiday was outlawed in England and in some of the American colonies. Penalties were exacted for celebrating Christmas or just staying home from work on Christmas Day. In New England (U.S.), it was not until 1856 that Christmas was legalized
God’s Word repeatedly warns his servants not to have anything to do with false worship. It is not pleasing to Him to fuse his worship with the religious beliefs and practices of those who do not worship him.
Knowing this, we should pay attention to the apostle Paul’s warning against mixing the true and the false. He says that even “a little leaven ferments the whole lump.” (Galatians 5:9) He reproved some of the early Christians for observing days that had been kept under the law of Moses but that God had canceled for Christians. (Galatians 4:10, 11) How much more important it is for true Christians today to shun a celebration that was never authorized by God, that stems from pagan Babylon, and that falsely bears the name of Christ!
True Christians have something finer than pagan celebrations. They have the “fruitage of the spirit,” which is “love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control.” (Galatians 5:22, 23) This fruitage produces a generosity that is much more beautiful and genuine than the “Christmas spirit” that blooms just once a year. God’s spirit produces kindness and unselfishness that can plainly be seen every day of the year. This prompts Christians to give, not with the hope of repayment or because they are pressured into it, but out of genuine Christian love.—Luke 6:35, 36; Acts 20:35
2006-06-25 21:47:55
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answered by Maia-Kine' 3
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I celebrate Christmas only as an event to get together with family and friends. I agree that Christmas is STILL pagan in pretty much every way and that it is wrong to consider it Christian. That which is NOT righteous is evil according to the very same Bible that ALL Christians read. If something is of pagan roots, it isnt of God and THAT WILL NOT CHANGE just because the Pope or Constantine or anyone says so. For one, Jesus couldnt have been born on December 25th- it has been proven, so why would is it always considered Jesus' birthday?
We do not have the authority to change God's Holy days- and I find that most Christians that celebrate Christmas (and Easter, which is also pagan)- dont even acknowledge or even know God's Holy Days that God commanded us to observe. I dont exactly think it is evil to celebrate Christmas because it is usually a time for love and peace- and it has spread among all countries and religions. Most religions that arent Christian celebrate it as a human celebration- and I think us Christians should celebrate it in the same way- we should disassociate Jesus with Christmas, change the name and everything- make it another thanksgiving or something.
Santa Claus is not Christian and I find it odd that Satan and Santa are spelled with the same letters (even if it IS "Saint" in another language). The Bible even says that decorating trees is wrong and pagan, so if it isnt pagan- why do we decorate trees and houses? Why is Santa's suit red and flashy?
Constantine is the one who brought Christmas to Christians because he wanted to convert to Christianity (hence, Roman Catholicism) but he wasnt committed enough to do away with his pagan traditions- such as orgies and drunkeness.
2006-06-25 01:44:04
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answered by ProZack 5
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well, I feel that Christmas is a time for me to remember christ's birth, when Jesus came to earth has a human to live a sinless life and then die as the ultimate sacrifice for everyone's sin. I am not sure why we get presents and stuff like that but Jesus was brought presents. I know that christmas may not be what it used to be but what is? I think that we need to remember Christ everyday and not just on Christmas and Easter.
Well, he did not have to be born on that day to celebrate it!!! It is a rememberance, not the birthdate like when you celebrate your birthday. Are you sure that isn't the day he was born anyway. It could have been. Were you there? I don't think anyone knows the exact date but there is a 1/365 chance that is the day. That is a better chance than the chance that humans evolved from monkeys and other non-christian beliefs.
About following his word...I am pretty sure that it says that we are to worship and remember Jesus and everything he did. I am pretty sure that is christmas to me and many other christians. You should really stop stereotyping.
2006-06-25 01:28:48
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answered by amalyn 2
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Most of the Christian world has been celebrating Christ's birthday on December 25 for hundreds of years. It's been a time of joy throughout the Christian world. It's only been recently that the fad has arisen to try to take Christ out of Christmas.
I believe that it is not so much about having the exact date, as it is about the love in your heart. Honor Jesus at Christmas...and every day of the year.
2006-06-25 01:36:48
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answered by Anonymous
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I am a Christian. My family celebrates Christmas every day. Christmas, commercially at least, is the celebration of the birth of our Lord and Savior. We are called to worship and celebrate that he lived and died for us every day. While strong evidence suggests that his actual birth was in June or July, we celebrate Christmas in December because that's what our culture has appointed the day to remember Christ's birth. It isn't a once a year thing for me and my family, but Christmas is a reminder of Jesus' life as well as how we should be living our lives. It is just a time of fellowship, to be with fellow believers and celebrate together as we should celebrate each day. When the day of celebration was changed to accomodate the pagans, the idea was that the spirit might come after the actions of celebrating. I don't agree with that though.
2006-06-25 01:30:13
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answered by crazyzoomusic 2
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Calanders have repeatedly changed throughout all of recorded history (most recently with the advent of 'leap years'). The celebration of Christmas, independent of the commercialization of a time that usually brings relief, if not outright joy, to most people worn down by their aching lives. The modern Christmas is a selected date of celebration--an honorarium. It should by, say, the 4th Sunday in December by the modern selection of national (across the nations, independently) holidays. It is not some angry and mysterious issue, trodden into a dark history rife with ghouls and witchcraft (well, maybe some--), but a chosen moment meant to be with family and friends and celebrate the fact that you are living and have a home and people you care about. This inevitably works out this way for few, but that is its initial intention.
2006-06-25 01:51:56
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answered by asphlex 3
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Christianity today has nothing to do with prophet Jesus. If he appeared today and we called him Jesus, he would not know who you are talking about b/c that is not his name. In fact, the word Christianity did not exist and it would be interesting to find out where the word Christianity came from. I think it was used a few hundred years after prophet Jesus left us. Christianity has become a pagan religion, period. You want proof? Look around next time you go to church. Whatever few verses left in the Bible should be appreciated, but not the whole of it. For example the prophesy of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) in genesis ~ And from Ishmael we will create a great nation, and 12 righteous descendants we will give him. Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was the only one to claim being from prophet Ishmael, and he also had 12 righteous descendants, all poisoned by the corrupt governments. Plus the Bible says false prophets will not be successful, but Islam will be the largest religion on this planet in the not too far off future. Note, research the character of a man called Saul who was Jewish, then later known as a Christian by name St. Paul who introduced the idea of Zeus son of Apollo into Christianity, giving it the seal of a pagan religion. No offense to any one, but if we are wrong, we should do any thing to research it to find the truth and not just be ignorant sheep. And if you believe you are American and should celebrate Christmas, know that the statue known as the Virgin Mary on the White House Dome, is actually the goddess of the underworld in a close up photo, and president Lincoln is also sitting in the posture as the god of death. You don't have to believe me, research it yourself.
2006-06-25 01:45:24
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answered by Ismael B 3
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I personally celebrate Christmas on Christmas Day because I don't know what day Jesus was born. December 25th is fine with me - also convenient since that's when the rest of my family celebrates it.
I'd say the followers of Mithra didn't convert too many people for very long since I've never met one.
2006-06-25 01:53:58
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answered by nursep 2
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