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Judges 1:19
And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

Mark 6:5
And he could there do no mighty work.

2006-06-24 15:52:21 · 17 answers · asked by skeptic 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Oh come on, give the guy some credit here, Skeptic! I mean, really now! Iron! Have you never seen a chariot of iron? That's one heavy ol' thing there...

I mean, moving mountains, flooding the whole earth, making the sun stop... Those things are a piece of cake when compared to chariots of iron.

Incidentally, the Lord also could not drive Vangelis out of the pop charts, because he had Chariots of Fire...

2006-06-25 03:18:53 · answer #1 · answered by XYZ 7 · 2 1

Don't fortget the partial verse that says, "...and Judas went and hung himself..."

and

"...go and do likewise..."

Thats what happens when you use a text without a context. You end up with a stupid pretext, which is the basis of atheistic "contraditictions", which are nothing more than mindless inventions.

Lets add a tiny bit of context to Judges 1:19, and look at the proceding verse.

[19] And the LORD was with Judah, and he took possession of the hill country, but he could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain, because they had chariots of iron.
[20] And Hebron was given to Caleb, as Moses had said; and he drove out from it the three sons of Anak.

You dont have to be a rocket scientist or a theologian to see the silly game that is going on here.

Let's look at Mark 6:5, IN CONTEXT.

[4] And Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor, except in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house."
[5] And he could do no mighty work there, except that he laid his hands upon a few sick people and healed them.
[6] And he marveled because of their unbelief. And he went about among the villages teaching.

I marvel at unbelief too. No matter how much evidence or arguments you give an atheist, it's never good enough.

I have no problem with evolution, but man did not create his own soul.

2006-06-24 16:15:17 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Judges 1:19 - "The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots."

Actually, God could have done something, but at the time the Israelites had violated God's command not to take up other idols (2:20-21), not making treaties with Canaan (2:2-3), and God was testing the Israelites' faithfulness to obey His commands (2:22-23; 3:4), and God was giving them the opportunity to develop their skills in warfare (3:1-2).

So no, your case falls apart.

As for Mark 6:5, it wasn't that Jesus was unable to perform miracles at Nazareth, but He chose not to in such a climate of unbelief (Mark 6:6).

2006-06-24 16:07:25 · answer #3 · answered by Soga 4 · 0 0

Actually, I believe that the wording of Judges 1:19 is wrong.

The correct version should read: The Lord was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots. (NIV)

2006-06-24 15:57:29 · answer #4 · answered by lexie 3 · 0 0

Yes, God can do anything except lie. And I think the scripture you gave said the Lord was with Judah, but it was Judah that could do no mighty works.

2006-06-24 16:06:17 · answer #5 · answered by PegSl 2 · 0 0

Can God almighty create a thing which he cannot destroy?

God cannot do anything and everything. There are so many things that God almighty cannot do.

Can God be born? One of the characteristics of God is that He is not born. If we say that God almighty was born, then there was a time when He didn't exist. And if there was a time when He didn't exist, For Him to come into existence, somebody has to make Him exist. So there is somebody else who is really God not Him. If we say that God almighty cannot be born, we are also saying that The Creator cannot become His creation. Because creation means what is in need of a Creator. To you be a creature, means that there has to be someone who create you. So if God became His creation, that means He is now in need of a creator. THIS IS IMPOSSIBILITY AND ABSURDITY!

Can God create a stone which is too heavy for Him to lift?
God almighty cannot be unjust. The moment when God become unjust, he ceases to be God. Because it's one of quality of God almighty that he is JUST.

The Qur’an says:
"Allah is never unjust In the least degree." [Al-Qur’an 4:40]

God cannot be cruel.

God almighty cannot throw me out of his domain. He can obliterate me. He can kill me. He can vanish me. But he cannot throw me out of his domain. WHERE WILL HE THROW ME? Everything belongs to him.

God cannot create a tall-short man. Yes he can make a tall man short. But no longer will he remains tall. But you cant have a tall-short man. You can have a medium man, who is neither tall nor short. But you cant have a man who is tall and short at the same time.

nowhere does the Quran says that God can do everything, Quran says in several places that God has the power over all things. There is world of a difference between "Allah can do everything and Allah have the power over everything"
Allah says in holy Quran (85:16)
"He does what He intends (or wills)"

Whatever he intends he can do. But God does only Godly things. He does not do Ungodly things.

When we muslims say "God almighty can do all things", we are talking about all things that are consistent in Him being God. Not included the absurdity, impossibility and the things which make "God" no longer "God".



ISLAM HAS LOGICAL ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION




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"His command when He desires a thing is just to say to it, “Be!” and it is." (Qur’an, 36: 82)

2006-06-24 15:57:37 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

People who quote King James, need to understand the language of that day, in your version of the text, he (not capitalized) refers to Judah. Also you have taken this out of context, vs. 17 -20 talk about Judah's conquering through the lands of inheritance, remember verse numbers and punctuation were added later, the first half of verse 19 specifically states why they were able to defeat the inhabitants of the mountains, but the second half is speaking of Judah alone, who without God failed.

Judges 1 KJV
17And Judah went with Simeon his brother, and they slew the Canaanites that inhabited Zephath, and utterly destroyed it. And the name of the city was called Hormah.
18Also Judah took Gaza with the coast thereof, and Askelon with the coast thereof, and Ekron with the coast thereof.
19And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
20And they gave Hebron unto Caleb, as Moses said: and he expelled thence the three sons of Anak.

Judges 1 NIV
17 Then the men of Judah went with the Simeonites their brothers and attacked the Canaanites living in Zephath, and they totally destroyed the city. Therefore it was called Hormah. 18 The men of Judah also took Gaza, Ashkelon and Ekron—each city with its territory. 19 The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots. 20 As Moses had promised, Hebron was given to Caleb, who drove from it the three sons of Anak.

Again you have taken the verse out of context in Mark 6, due to the lack of faith of the people in Nazareth and their urge for Him to leave, he could do little while there.

Mark 6 KJV
4But Jesus, said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
5And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
6And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

Mark 6 NIV
4Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown, among his relatives and in his own house is a prophet without honor." 5He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them. 6And he was amazed at their lack of faith.

To answer your question ,Yes

Mark 10:27
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God."

2006-06-24 16:13:34 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes, God can do anything. I was asked whether or not God could create a rock that was too heavy for even HIM to pick up. Answer is yes he can do both. He can create that rock AND he can pick it up... the question is whether or not you (not you personally) have the mental capacity to comprehend that. :-D

2006-06-24 16:01:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yeah, He can do anything, and everything. He's just waiting for us to get up off our lazy asses and do something. He's given us the power and the intelligence. I bet He wonders how long He's gonna have to wait till we do. I certainly don't have the patience He does. God Bless you.

2006-06-24 15:58:38 · answer #9 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

No God has self imposed limits. i.e. never destroying the world with a flood, never breaking a covenant, never revoking free will, etc.

2006-06-24 16:05:56 · answer #10 · answered by mike g 4 · 0 0

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