Help me understand the concept of trinity.?

Question

NOTE: I NEED ONLY THOSE WHO ARE KONWLEDGABLE IN CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY IN THIS CONCEPT.

In Christianity:
Is Jesus the Son of God?
Is Jesus part of God?
Is Jesus man who is God-incarnate?
Was Jesus a man before he became God?
Was Jesus God before he became man?
Did Jesus become God after he was crucified?
Was Jesus God before he was crucified?

I will ask another series of questions.

What did pedrogolo mean? Was Jesus sort of like an avatar? Anyone, please explain this to me, even pedrogolo can make an edit.

To answer cat4use's question: right now I'm focusing on the Jesus part.

People, can you please read my questions first before answering them?

Answer 1

Within Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is a single Being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a perichoresis of three persons (personae, prosopa):

- Father (the Source, the Eternal Majesty)
- The Son (the eternal Logos or Word, incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth)
- The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost (the Paraclete or advocate).

Since the 4th Century AD, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "One God in Three Persons," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal "persons" or "hypostases," share a single Divine essence, being, or nature.

Supporting the doctrine of the Trinity is known as Trinitarianism, and is opposed to the positions of Binitarianism (two deities/persons/aspects), and Unitarianism (one deity/person/aspect), which are held by some minor Christian groups.

Answer 2

Basically the trinity can't be explained.
Because it doesn't make sense and it cant be real it's a man made lie. How can Jesus be God? One minute your divine God, and the next minute he less then divine being the son. This subject is too deep. Many people I don't think read carefully or just doesnt care and just follow the majority, which is Christianity. I can quote so many different sciptures from the bible that would refute what people claim on Jesus.

being born of a virgin doesnt make you god.
and being resurrected doesnt make you god either. (and there is not real proof he died)
god would not pray to himself sense he is the most highest
the biggest thing to me is Jesus never called himself god or said I am god.
if jews, christians and muslims beleive in one god, then where do you get a trintity from unless you make it up.

Answer 3

Q: Is Jesus the Son of God?
A: yes

Q: Is Jesus part of God?
A: yes, there is three Gods in one person.

Q: Is Jesus man who is God-incarnate?
A: no, Jesus was always God even before time

Q: Was Jesus a man before he became God?
A: no

Q:Was Jesus God before he became man?
A: yes. he became man to save us from our sins

Q:Did Jesus become God after he was crucified?
A: He was always God

Q:Was Jesus God before he was crucified?
A: yes, God and man

the Holy Trinity is three dinvine separate Gods in one, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit

Jesus is God who became man and died on the cross to fullfill his father's plan

i know this is a little hard to understand but i hope this helps ♥

Answer 4

Q.: Is Jesus the Son of God?

A.: I would say that Jesus is the Son of God, as in the "product" of the Father.

Q.: Is Jesus part of God?

A.: Through the Trinity. They are connected. Jesus is man's only mediator to/from God. "Jesus" is a human (incarnate being). He has the mind & Spirit of God. (This is a connection of the incarnate being to "God" I'm trying to make here.)

Q.: Is Jesus man who is God-incarnate?

A.: I would have to say Yes. God is a Spirit, it is written. Jesus is the only human with the spirit/mind to understand or possess the Spirit or Knowledge of God. God may be more encompassing than a "human being", but the Lord is our only connection to God, the Lord is the most human-being-God-like figure we have (or will have), and anything we get from God, will come through Jesus Christ [the incarnate being].

Q.: Was Jesus a man before he became God?

A.: No, Jesus was probably God before He became man. He probably existed elsewhere in another form (perhaps only spirit) and evolved into man. Through thousands of years, the man Jesus Christ probably posessed more & more the Spirit that He possessed before coming man.

Q.: Was Jesus God before he became man?

A.: God did not become "Jesus" until He (It - God) became man.

Q.: Did Jesus become God after he was crucified?

A.: He probably always was God, but did not know it. Various places in Scriptures it says "I and my Father are one" -- so he knew it at times or eventually. On the cross, Jesus said, "Father, why hast thou forsaken me?" He said this,m I believe, because He did not know the Father (god) was inside Him... He was still trying to figure it all out -- or had yet to do it. After the crucifixion, He was probably more aware of His position (God Incarnate) in the world.

Q.: Did Jesus become God after he was crucified?

A.: Answered above (last question).


The "Trinity" (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) may be the God (the Spirit that always was/was in the beginning), the Son (incarnate being/man - including woman or any form that it took in the process of being of the Incarnate God), and the Holy Ghost (that Spirit?power that connects them (God, the Spirit, to Son, the Incarnate).


[EDIT] Where did you get the term "pedrogolo". How is it used?

Was "Jesus" like an Avatar? Yes, possibly. The face is one that is conjured up when we think of the man Jesus. However, I believed that the likeness of the image we conjure up is quite like the man Jesus was in real life.

Answer 5

To understant trinity u have to understand the "The Story of the Bible", The story of the Bible is (briefly)

1- God (The Father) made Adam (First Human)
2- Adam sinned and got out of Heaven (A place where he could talk 2 God face to face)
3- God (The Father) promised to reconcile Man with Him (that
is again bring humans face to face with Him)

4- He chose the nation of Israel through Abraham (then
Mosses and so on....)

5- Finally God (The Father) sent his own Words,that is Jesus
Christ (The Son) to pay the penalty for our sins (The word
became flesh)

6- After the death and resurrection of Christ (The Son), The Spirit of God (The Holy Spirit) now moves freely on this earth, as God promised to Adam and Old Testment Prophets

So it is easy to see,

God (The Father) has never come in contact with us humans

God (The Son) lived among us and told us about himself

God (The Holy Spirit) moves in born again christians due to which a born again person can in this world communicate with God and get enternal life (this was not possible before the death and resuurection of Christ)

So like a drama God is One Actor playing Three (3) roles according to the situtation that He himself has written (script - Holy Bible)

Answer 6

Is Jesus the Son of God?
Yes, Jesus is and was the son of God.

Is Jesus part of God?
Jesus has God's holy spirit which unifies him with God the Father, just as the saints have God's holy spirit and unify them with him (John 17:21-23).

Is Jesus man who is God-incarnate?
Jesus was God incarnate. Jehovah God gave up his godliness to become a man (Philippians 2:5-7). But he did not give up who he was, his memories, etc. (Luke 10:18).

Was Jesus a man before he became God?
When he was in the flesh, he was a man -- a man with a history of having been God; yet able to be tempted just as any other man (Hebrews 4:15). When he was resurrected, Jesus became the firstborn son of God; and as the Jews understood, a son of God is God (John 10:33).

Was Jesus God before he became man?
See above answer.

Did Jesus become God after he was crucified?
After he was crucified, Jesus was dead. He became God after he was resurrected from the dead.

Was Jesus God before he was crucified?
See above answers.

To answer an unasked question -- Jesus did not have the creation power of God while in the flesh, for he said, "I am able to do nothing from Myself" (John 5:30). Yet he was God because he was always God from eternity:
"Christ Jesus, who subsisting in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but EMPTIED HIMSELF, taking the form of a slave, having become in the likeness of men..." (Philippians 2:5-7)
He put off his godly attributes, and became reliant upon God the Father for all that he did.

Jesus is not a part of a trinity. The concept of the Trinity is not in the Word of God, and it is contrary to the Gospel message Jesus preached.

Answer 7

According to Philippians 2:5-11:
Jesus existed in the form of God, and was equal to God (See also John 1:1-5)
But he gave up that position (made himself of no reputation or position), took upon him the role of a servant, in the form of man (See also John 1:14).
In that form he was obediant to God as His Father even to the point of death on the cross.
Because of that, God raised Him from the dead and has put Him in back into the position of God. He is the One above all things that is to be worshiped.

So the Bible says he was God, laid aside the fullness of that Godship to become man, died for the redemption of the world, and returned to the position of Godship.

In the Jewish culture that Jesus lived in, the phrase "the son of..." did not mean simply "He had whoever as his Father". When someone was declared to be the "the son of..." it meant that the person had all the rights, powers and abilities of the father. He could do anything in the father could do. So when Jesus called himself "the son of God", he was stated that he was equal with God. He had all the same rights, powers and abilities of God. He was declaring his divinity.

He also referred to himself as "the son of man". This is because he also had all the rights, power, and abilities of a human being. He was all of God and all of man at the same time. That is what made the redemption of the world possible.

Since it was man (Adam) who sinned and gave his authority over to satan, it had to be another man (Jesus) who took it back. God could not come down as God and redeem man. He had no legal right to do it, because he had given that authority to man. It had to be a man who got it back. So God became that man and redeemed the world.

Answer 8

The trinity stands for the father (god), the son (Jesus) and the holy spirit. Each exists separately yet they are all one. God sent Jesus, a part of himself in human form, to earth to spread his words. Therefore, to answer your questions, Jesus is the son of god. Jesus is part of god. Jesus was both a man and a god; man because he could die, but god because he could be resurrected.

Answer 9

Yes to all the above, with exception to:
He was a man before He became God
and that He became God after He was crucified.

He was Son of God and son of man.
God incarnate, with human limitations.

The trinity is a non-biblical term used to describe the three ways God has revealed Himself to mankind.

God, the Father, creator of everything
God, the Son, made a man to save us from our sins
God, the Holy Spirit, which dwells within those who believe in the Son; who He is and what He has done.

All three are aspects of the living God.

It's like trying to understand water the nature of water.
Water has been revealed to us in three forms or aspects:

Water, as liquid, it's most common state of existence,
Water, as a solid, in the form of ice,
Water, as a gas, in the form of steam.

All are still water, just in different forms.
I hope this helps you.

Answer 10

Jesus is God always was and always will be. When Jesus was made man he was already god. Jesues is the Son of God the Father. but The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one but also 3 seperent enities. Kinda like water it can be solid, liquid or vapour, it is differnt but still the same thing.