Yes, i have heard of them, and they are (il)legitimate as the ""Jews"" for Jesus!
Many people, Christians and some Jews as well, erroneously believe that just as one can be Black and Christian, just as one can be Oriental and Christian, one can also be Jewish and Christian. It is not true. The Jews are not a race. There is no genetic code passed from either mother or father to the child that makes that child a Jew. If all, or even some, of the genetic code in a child could be proved to be of Jewish Origin, that would not make the child a Jew.
Jewish law determines who is a Jew, and Jewish law is quite clear. If a person's mother is a Jew, and that person has not converted to another faith, then that person will be considered fully Jewish, so long as that person wishes to identify solely as a Jew. Although one cannot convert to become a member of a race, one who converts to Judaism does, indeed, become fully a Jew. Similarly, if one converts from Judaism to another faith, one is no longer a Jew.
Messianic "Judaism," and "Hebrew" Catholics as well, are a product of the successful missionizing campaign of such ministries as the "Jews" for Jesus, who try to make it look as though one can be a Jew and a Christian at the same time. By definition, one who believes in Jesus as their savior is a Christian. One who accepts Jesus as anything other than a man who once lived, but died without doing anything the Real Messiah will do when he gets here (hence the reason for a Second Coming!), is a Christian and no longer a Jew.
The Orthodox Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, writing for the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, for the National Conference of Synagogue Youth, the Orthodox Youth Group, in his book The Real Messiah, on page 21 wrote:
"""This brings us back to our original question:
What can a Jew lose by embracing Christianity?
The answer is: Everything.
Christianity negates the fundamentals of Jewish
faith, and one who accepts it rejects the very
essence of Judaism. Even if he continues to keep
all of the rituals, it is the same as if he
abandoned Judaism completely.
A Jew who accepts Christianity might call himself
a "Messianic 'Jew,'" but he is no longer a Jew.
He can no longer even be counted as part of a
Jewish Congregation."""
We Jews define for ourselves who is and who is not a Jew, and not the Jewish wannabees, and the targets of this newest technique in missionizing Jews.
The majority of the membership of Messianic ""Jewish"" congregations, as a matter of fact, were not ever Jewish up until recently, and this is also true about their Messianic ""rabbis."" Many of these "rabbis" change their names to something that sounds stereotypically Jewish, in order to better target those they want to convert to Christianity.
As the success of this newest technique in missionizing the less knowledgeable Jews increased, the percentage of membership of ex-Jews as members of their messianic congregations has also increased, now running about 50-50.
It is also interesting to note that a large number of people converting TO Judaism have come to real Judaism from having been exposed to Messianic ""Judaism.""
At a messianic congregation, all references to Christian theology has been changed to make it sound more Jewish, and therefore more pallatable to their targets. They will only refer to Jesus as 'Yeshua' (which would not have been his name), they will say 'moshiach' instead of 'christ,' they will say 'synagogue' instead of 'church,' and on and on, in keeping with the techniques described in the book Understanding Church Growth by Donald MacGavran, who helped the idea of Indiginous Cultural Evangelism get started.
The services will sound very Jewish, usually a lot of (mispronounced) Hebrew, and prayers will have been changed to add the Christian theology of Jesus to them, again, to make the service more familiar to their targets.
Remember that these messianic congregations need member$hip, and so they also target those Christians who want to know more about the ""Jewish roots"" of Christianity as well.
When a Catholic converts to a Protestant denomination of Christianity, do they join a church and call themselves "Roman Catholics For No Pope"? This whole idea, that one can remain a Jew after converting to Christianity, was a technique to better missionize Jews, begun in the 1960's. What an insult to Christianity, that to get Jews to convert to Christianity, they had to stop calling themselves what they became:: Christians!
"How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Still only four, because calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg." ---Abraham Lincoln
2006-06-24 01:40:22
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