I can tell you Our Basic Beliefs
We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
2006-06-23 09:43:37
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answered by topher 4
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I'm not a Mormon, but my minister is an expert on this and other cults and has written several books on them. I'm getting some of this from one of his books right now.
They teach that God was once a man and became God, even though the Bible and the Book of Mormon teach against it.
Joseph Smith once bragged that he was even better than Jesus (HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, volume 6, p. 409)
They do not believe in the Trinity, when both the Bible and the Book of Mormon taches it.
They practice baptism for the dead, when both the Bible and Book of Mormon clearly teach against it.
You must also have Joseph Smith's permission to enter heaven. Here is from my minister's book:
"Brigham Young stated, “If I ever pass into heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of Prophet Joseph” (JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, volume 8, p. 224); “...No man or woman in this dispensation will enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith” (JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, volume 7, p. 289) and, “Whosoever confesseth that Joseph Smith was of God...that spirit is of God; and every spirit that does not confess that God sent Joseph Smith, and revealed that everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Anti-Christ...” (JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, volume 8, p. 176)."
Here is one last quote from his book:
"What does the Mormon Church think of Christianity? Brigham Young stated the following: “We talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsense...it is corrupt as hell; and the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century” (JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, volume 6, p. 167)."
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"In May of 1977, THE ENSIGN, an official Mormon Church publication, on page 26, carried an article asking, “Are the Mormons Christian?” Part of that article read, “It is true that many of the Christian churches worship a different Jesus Christ than is worshiped by the Mormons or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.”"
2006-06-23 09:51:25
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answered by Julie 5
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The Church has a Handbook of Instructions oh why didn't I get them all I got was the Bible, the book of Mormon, D&C and the pearl of great price go figure!
In response to julie
JULIE:I'm not a Mormon, but my minister is an expert on this and other cults and has written several books on them. I'm getting some of this from one of his books right now.
JULIE:They teach that God was once a man and became God, even though the Bible and the Book of Mormon teach against it.
where does the Bible teach against it?
If God has no body, why does He say He created man in His image? And if image has another meaning why does the Bible say Seth was in the image of Adam? The word image means physical image as it is used in Hebrew. And speaking of Hebrews, the book, that is, chapter 1 verse 3 states that Christ is in the express image of His Father. This was written well AFTER the physical resurrection of Christ, so it means that that Christ in his tangible, glorious, resurrected state was the exact image or replica (Greek: kharakter) of the Father's nature (Greek: hupostasis). It follows logically, that God the Father must also have a similar nature, being a resurrected being like Christ. Is there any other logical conclusion that one can make?
Christ is the Son of God, and God is the Father. Among the many implications of this truth, we know that as a child looks like its father, so Christ looks like His Father in Heaven. More than just being in the image of God, as all of us are (Gen. 1:26,27; James 3:9; Gen. 5:1-3), Christ is "the express image of his person" (Heb. 1:3), meaning that His physical appearance (the only proper translation for the word "image") is expressly that of the Father's. It can't be said much more clearly than that.
For you and others who may have grown up with the doctrine of the Trinity, I think it is very difficult to realize that this doctrine is one of several possible interpretations of the nature of God, one of many possible ways of interpreting the Biblical record. Many Trinitarians are taught that the post-Biblical creeds they grew up with are IDENTICAL to Biblical teachings, but they are not. The doctrine of the Trinity can be viewed as consistent with many Bible passages, but you need to realize that there are other possibilities. And once you accept that, it then becomes possible to realize that the earliest Christians understood things much differently, and that there are many passages in the Bible that seem strongly inconsistent with the Trinity
ok for pure speculation purposes was Jesus not a Man sent from God Begotten of God to die for our sins? hmmmm interesting!
JULIE:Joseph Smith once bragged that he was even better than Jesus (HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, volume 6, p. 409)
Acually he stated he was able to keep a church together better then anyone, Surely Joseph Smith would be the first to agree that keeping a church together is not a greater or a more significant work than what was done by Jesus.
There is nothing as significant as being the God of Israel, taking upon oneself the sins of the world, dying for all mankind that they might live, nor being resurrected. Surely, everlasting life is the greatest gift anyone could give. Nevertheless, the Lord himself said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father" (John 14:12). To what greater work could the Savior be referring? Perhaps the Lord means a larger work, but certainly not more significant. For example, John the Baptist presumably baptized more people than Jesus, Paul may have converted more as a missionary, Moses led more Israelites out of bondage, Noah built a bigger ship, and Joseph Smith kept the Church together longer.
JULIE:They do not believe in the Trinity, when both the Bible and the Book of Mormon taches it.
Acually they both teach the Godhead in my opinion and in acient christian writtings I can find nothing of the trinity or it concepts
JULIE:They practice baptism for the dead, when both the Bible and Book of Mormon clearly teach against it.
Jesus told Nicodemus, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3). He then added, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God"
in I Cor. 15:29. This passage alludes to a practice of at least some early Christians who performed vicarious baptism on behalf of deceased ancestors.
http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-02/TOC.htm good page to check out about ancient christians
BTW, the modern evidence for baptism for the dead in ancient times is now so strong that a relatively new translation of the Bible, the New English Bible (published by a group of English and Scottish churches with absolutely NO LDS ties) has a footnote for 1 Cor. 15:29 saying something to the effect that modern evidence shows that some early Christians did practice proxy baptism on behalf of those who had died without baptism.I think it was the NEB
JULIE:You must also have Joseph Smith's permission to enter heaven. Here is from my minister's book:
"Brigham Young stated, “If I ever pass into heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of Prophet Joseph” (JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, volume 8, p. 224); “...No man or woman in this dispensation will enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith” (JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, volume 7, p. 289) and, “Whosoever confesseth that Joseph Smith was of God...that spirit is of God; and every spirit that does not confess that God sent Joseph Smith, and revealed that everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Anti-Christ...” (JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, volume 8, p. 176)."
Latter-day Saints do not believe Joseph Smith is the keeper of the gate of heaven, nor the one who determines whether we are saved. Some Christians think they will instead meet Peter at the "pearly gates," but The Book of Mormon teaches who will really be the final "gatekeeper":
O then, my beloved brethren, come unto the Lord, the Holy One. Remember that his paths are righteous. Behold, the way for man is narrow, but it lieth in a straight course before him, and the keeper of the gate is the Holy One of Israel; and he employeth no servant there; and there is none other way save it be by the gate; for he cannot be deceived, for the Lord God is his name (2 Nephi 9:41).
Noah offered "salvation" to those who would join him in the ark. Those who were disobedient and failed to enter the ark were swept off the earth in the flood and ended up in spirit prison (1 Peter 3:20). Again, as the prophet of his dispensation, Noah provided the "passport" for those who accepted the word of God that came through him.
In the meridian of time, those who accepted the apostles and prophets and did not reject the message of Jesus Christ were saved. As the Lord said to the apostles, "He that receiveth you receiveth me" (Matt. 10:40).
While speaking about our own dispensation, Brigham Young said that people of this dispensation will not enter God's Kingdom without the "consent" and "certificate" of Joseph Smith as a passport to entering where God and Christ are. Brigham Young then explained what he meant: "It is his [Joseph's] mission to see that all the children of men in this last dispensation are saved, that can be, through the redemption" (Journal of Discourses, vol.7, p.289).
The "passport," then, that people will need to enter heaven is the same as they have always needed, no matter what dispensation they lived in. To accept Christ is to accept his prophets: without the priesthood authority and inspired teachings of the Lord that have come through Joseph Smith, no one in this dispensation, living or dead, can be redeemed.
Anti-Mormon critics distort this view, trying to make it appear that Joseph Smith will be standing by the gate of heaven admitting or rejecting those who seek to enter. This is not the picture that is painted by Brigham Young. He was merely stating that the mission of Joseph Smith, God's prophet, was "to see that all the children of men in the last dispensation are saved, that can be through the redemption."
It should be recognized that the Savior is a great delegator. He has delegated to the "head" of each dispensation certain responsibilities, including some preliminary judging responsibilities. For example, in New Testament times the Apostles were told that they will judge the twelve tribes of Israel (Matt 19:28). Literally, then, those of the Twelve Tribes won't "get to Heaven" without the consent of the Apostles.
JULIE:Here is one last quote from his book:
JULIE:"What does the Mormon Church think of Christianity? Brigham Young stated the following: “We talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsense...it is corrupt as hell; and the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century” (JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, volume 6, p. 167)." acually you misqouted and it wasn't Brigham Young
John Taylor, in Journal of Discourses, Volume 6, page 167, says:
"We talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsense... It is a sounding brass and a tinkling symbol; it is as corrupt as hell: and the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than Christianity of the nineteenth century."
so he is not saying christianity in general but yes he is saying the once saved always saved and all you have to do is beileve is your saved thing is nonsense.....
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JULIE:"In May of 1977, THE ENSIGN, an official Mormon Church publication, on page 26, carried an article asking, “Are the Mormons Christian?” Part of that article read, “It is true that many of the Christian churches worship a different Jesus Christ than is worshiped by the Mormons or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.”"
ok it's like if I said your cat was a slut instead of saying No your wrong you would say I know not of the cat of which you speak ... .
An amazing new deception among anti-Mormons who really must know better is corrupting the words of President Gordon B. Hinckley, arguing that he said we don't believe in the Jesus of the Bible. Ah! An admission that we aren't Christian. What more proof is needed? Here's a passage giving President Hinckley's words from his famous interview with Larry King:
"In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints 'do not believe in the traditional Christ.' 'No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fullness of Times. He together with His Father, appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages.'" (LDS Church News Week ending June 20, 1998, p.7 )
You said that he denied believing in the Christ of the Bible. What President Hinckley is saying is well known to LDS people: we don't believe in the kind of Christ taught by modern tradition, the Christ of the Nicene Creed and other traditional expressions of belief devised long after the Bible. President Hinckley is distinguishing us from the Trinitarian tradition of modern Christianity, not from the Bible.
President Hinckley's views were further clarified in the Sunday morning session of the April 2002 General Conference session of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints:
As a Church we have many critics, many of them. They say we do not believe in the traditional Christ of Christianity. There is some substance to what they say. Our faith, our knowledge is not based on ancient traditions, the creeds which came of a finite understanding and out of the almost infinite discussions of men trying to arrive at a definition of the risen Christ. Our faith, our knowledge comes from the witness of a prophet in this dispensation who saw before him the great God of the universe and His Beloved son, the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ. They spoke to him. He spoke to them. He testified openly, unequivocally, and unabashedly of that great vision of the Almighty Redeemer of the world glorifying our understanding, but unequivocating in the knowledge it brought.
We have affirmed over and over a belief in Christ of the Bible, not a belief in the Trinity, which in LDS scripture and theology is part of what is referred to as the "traditions of men."
2006-06-24 16:35:05
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answered by destineypyle 4
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