I was reading another question that asked if Catholics were Christians, and someone answered "no" because Catholics believe Jesus (PBUH) was born in winter when in reality his birthdate when never mentioned in the real bible.
Can someone help me out? I'm just confused.
2006-06-23 05:35:14 · 26 answers · asked by curious 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Sorry, for my question I meant to write "if the bible does not mention Jesus's (PBUH) birthDATE..."
2006-06-23 06:10:15 · update #1
Scholars tend to agree that his birth was probably in the spring. The date of Dec. 25, is an ancient pagan holiday, which was used by the early Church to acclimatize the pagans to the new Faith. The Gospels do , in fact, speak of the circumstances surrounding His birth, although a specific date is not mentioned.
2006-06-23 05:43:02 · answer #1 · answered by aboukir200 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The bible mentions Jesus's birth in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. It just doesn't say when it happened. However, it does mention a "Census" which Ceaser ordered. When the catholic church was formed, there was still a roman empire, with a Ceaser, and Censuses, so they figured that the birth of jesus happened some time around the time of the census. Later records seem to indicate that the roman government changed the time of year that the census occured a few times before that, so we aren't so sure about it.
Christmas exists because everyone feels that they should have a birth day, and somebody thought that Jesus was a very important person, who should also have a birthday.
Catholics are christians, except for the very few catholics who go to church, but do not believe in Jesus. These "non-christian" catholics are usually atheists, who believe in no god, but go for the sake of tradition, or there are a few who have disguised pagan beliefs as the adoration of specific saints.
Can you tell me what you mean by (PBUH)?
2006-06-23 12:52:20 · answer #2 · answered by ye_river_xiv 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The birth is pretty detailed, with the exception of the date. I have the same question regarding the date. What I have discovered is this.
Yule was a winter celebration celebrated during the 3rd week in December, there was no specific date assigned. The villages would stop working that week, and hold feasts for family, and friends, which normally included the whole village. The burned a "yule log" as part of the festivities.
As far as human nature goes, I think they chose Dec 25th, to celebrate Jesus's birth, as was already customed for Yule.
Since Jesus exact birthday was not know, and still not, they just basically continued a custom that people were already doing. Yule was not a religious celebration, just a peoples Holiday .
But, I figure this, what date does it really matter if they celebrate it, just honoring and recognizing his birth is more than enough.
2006-06-23 12:42:02 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
A lot of these answers are correct, but for some reason they feel the need to condemn you. You're right, the Bible doesn't say anything about the time of year that Jesus was born. Christmas wasn't celebrated until several hundred years after Jesus' death, and not all Christian denominations celebrate it at the same time, or at all.
It is said that there was a pre-Christian pagan festival that was held at around Dec. 25 in Europe. Normally I can remember its name but it escapes me at the moment (Saturnalia?). It's said that the pagans were willing to accept Jesus but unwilling to give up their big festival. So Christmas was created to give that festival a Christian face.
Interesting when you think about it.
2006-06-23 12:43:32 · answer #4 · answered by XYZ 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yahushua was born in about 3 or 4 BC(E) and according to many clues in history and the Bible we can extrapalate He was born on the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles, which was also the time of collecting taxes in an agricultural society.
Mattithyahu(Matthew) and Luke both record the event of his birth and give us the clues that lead to this conclusion.
So say he was born in the Spring at Passover time but this would not have been a good time to collect taxes right after the long winter months.
2006-06-23 12:44:06 · answer #5 · answered by echadone 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Bible mentions Jesus birth. There are several prophecies surrounding it and the Israelites were in expectation of the Messiah appearing when he did. The night of his birth, the Bible states that sheperds were in their fields with their flocks. This is not December 25, which is the rainy season in Israel. He was probably born in late September or early October. In history, when the armies of Constantine marched and wanted the backing of those claiming to be Christians, he merged the celebration of Saturnalia (worship of the sun) with the birth of Jesus. Christmas was born. It is interesting to research each of the symbols of Christmas and see where they came from, as well.
2006-06-23 12:41:05 · answer #6 · answered by curiositycat 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It was started by the Catholic church to get the Druids on line with Christian thinking. Hence the christmas tree. By reading the bible we know that the sheep were out in the fields, with the shepherds, something that would not have been done if it was the winter.
Jesus was actually born around the end of September 2 BC.
2006-06-23 12:42:30 · answer #7 · answered by plowmscat 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Christ was born during the autumn holy day season.
December 25 is the date for the birth of the son of the Sun god, Nimrod, the master mason of the tower of babel, pre-cursor to Babylon. Emperor Constantine found it profitable to pretend to be a Christian even though he was a sun worshipper. He mixed paganism with commercial Christianity. Over the centuries religious leaders saw they could build congregations (and donations) by using this mix. The birth of Nynus is celebrated to this day as if it were the birth of the Messiah.
Why does Christmas exist? So merchants can mark their prices up and get rid of their junk every year.
2006-06-23 12:49:33 · answer #8 · answered by onelm0 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Bible does not mention Jesus' real birth date but Christmas came from a pagan holiday and the combination of Catholic customs and practices that were initially bad but eventually they assigned it to Christ birth and therefore everyone celebrates it now. See link below:
2006-06-23 12:44:41 · answer #9 · answered by Damian 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Bible does not mean that Jesus was born? What Bible are you reading?
Of course Catholics are Christians. A Christian is someone who believe that Jesus is THE Christ. Catholics believe this.
So, all Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics.
2006-06-23 12:38:12 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋