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"Rabbid_cat" adj. person who would make statements that just arent true as if they were founded in fact. < like that lol
anyone can make almost any statement appear scientific and factual if theyre stated out of context or spoken in syllogisms
example: 1.God is Love 2. Love is blind 3. ray charles is god

2006-06-22 16:32:23 · 8 answers · asked by Mr Spock 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

It's not easy to dismantle or discredit absolute truth. Those who try do so fight hard, but, truth is truth.

One has no reason to fight so hard against something based on lies, because anything built on lies won't last.

But, if the word is built on the foundation of truth, well...how else can an atheist or agnostic fight against it but hard?

2006-06-22 19:04:43 · update #1

8 answers

it's rabid. I don't think cats, rabid or otherwise, can type. and I like that statement about anyone can make almost any statement appear scientific and factual if they're stated out of context or spoken in syllogisms: ID, anyone?

2006-06-22 16:38:56 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I don't know Rabbid Cat -- but I know the Bible quite well. No lies are required. The Bible is full of errors, contradictions, failed prophecies and false history.

While we have none of the autographs of the Bible, the early manuscripts we do have have and that are known to be genuine, by the most conservative estimates, have 200,000 differences between the wording in them, and while many are not meaningful, some completely change the doctrine of the church. (Ehrman, Bart, Ph.D.; Misquoting Jesus: The story behind who changed the Bible and Why; Harper Collins, 2006 -- p. 89). less conservative estimates range up to about 400,000 -- and there are programmers now endeavoring to write a program that will be able to count the exact number of variances.

And that's only the start of the difficulties for the Bible. If you only use the Textus Receptus (Received Text) as it is printed in modern Bibles then you are looking at enormous problems anyway -- in fact insurmountable ones. The World does not have corners (Isaiah 11:12), nor does it sit on pillars (I Samuel 2:8), nor water (Psalms 24:1-2). God did not establish a solid dome over the earth (that's what firmament literally means) and he does not have a palace on top of it from which angels can come and go up Jacob's ladder -- which might be reached by the tower of babel -- and where he keeps "treasuries" of hail and snow (Job 38: 22-23). For the sake of all that is decent, you can't even harmonize the 1st and 2nd chapters of Genesis with each other, say nothing of being able to defend the Biblical creation as scientifically factual. That's no surprise though, as the Bible tells us that beetles have four legs (Leviticus 11: 21-23) and that rabbits chew their cuds (Deuteronomy 14:7). It says that pi is 3, not 3.14 (I Kings 7:23 and 2 Chronicles 4:2) and that the mustard seed is the smallest seed in the world and grows into a tree [neither of which are true] (Matthew 13: 31-32). It is hardly a font of rational thought or scientific accuracy. Furthermore these errors only scratch the surface. Try harmonizing accounts in Joshua and the telling of the same tales in timeline in Judges sometime. If you can you are more proficient than any theologian I've ever met, and I've met a few.

Late bronze age men created the OT and early iron age ones the NT. It is not surprising therefore that God cannot lead Israel to defeat Iron chariots after promising he would (Judges 1:19), and it is not surprising that Israel flees from the god Chemosh, after the king of a city the Jews were beseiging and that God had promised them they would overthrow offers his own son to Chemosh as a human sacrifice, resulting in Chemosh driving the Israelites away (2 Kings 3: 19-27) -- further it is not surprising that no punishment is mentioned -- the Israelites were still sacrificing their own children, as is evidenced in several places, but most graphically in Judges 11:30-39

The long and short of it is, the Bible is a mythic book, written by bronze and iron age men who were recording primarily oral legends in written form. In any realistic sense it is drivel. You can see, just in the passages I noted above from 2 Kings -- the last vestiges of polytheism fading away. Chemosh was supposed to get power from human sacrifice, just as Jehovah did -- and that power allowed him to turn the table against Israel, despite the fact that God was with Israel.

Read the verses, read the context -- to all the things I've suggested, calm your breathing and thinking and ask yourself if this is really the God of the Universe you are reading about -- or a tribal deity, which has now evolved into the one we worship. I think you will find biblegod sadly lacking -- something the liturgical churches have been saying for hundreds of years. If you find yourself unwilling to even look -- ask yourself why? Are you willing to sacrifice the truth, in order to maintain a comfortable myth for yourself?

And if you want a chuckle, read the second, and theoretically final version of the ten commandments. They are in Exodus 34: 10-26. That is the covenant Yahweh actually made with Israel. No seething here.

Have a nice day.

Regards,

Reynolds Jones
Schenectady, NY
http://www.rebuff.org
believeinyou24@yahoo.com

Since I was the only serious answer, I presume your addition was directed to me.

I am neither an atheist nor an agnostic. I am a Christian -- from a NON LITERALIST CHURCH. Remember us? Even if I were an atheist though, asserting something does not make it true, and asserting that you have absolute truth does not mean you do; and in fact, you don't.

Be well.

2006-06-23 00:19:53 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

for the same reason people who say the bible is gods word, and is the actual happenings and truth of the time it was supposedly written lie to themselves and others so much. The bible is a book, it has been copied and changed at least a hundred times over the years, and has had parts added and removed at the whim of the church leaders, or the copier. Its no more the truth any more than the davinci code book is. You might want to do some serious investigation of the bible before you go on about people slamming it. Hell, the last version has taken a very important sentence out of revelations, the one that says 'I had a dream" at the very start of it and now they claim it to be truth and not just a possiblity.

2006-06-22 23:41:02 · answer #3 · answered by judy_r8 6 · 0 0

I know exactly what you mean. Don't you hate it when Christians take the Bible out of context?

1. God kills babies. 2. Gods sends his (alleged) son to Earth to be tortured and killed. 3. God is Love.

The scriptural evidence that Jehovah is a cruel, misogynistic, and barbaric God is right there in the Bible, but somehow all these chumps get out of it is that God is love.

Amazing!

-SD-

2006-06-22 23:53:48 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

LOL ray Charles is god . HA I like it.

2006-06-22 23:36:31 · answer #5 · answered by ajax_spaid 2 · 0 0

Mmmmrrrfff?? Don't do that while I'm trying to take a drink.

2006-06-22 23:38:17 · answer #6 · answered by Mama Otter 7 · 0 0

They probably never read the Bible. If they can read that is.

2006-06-22 23:35:41 · answer #7 · answered by Anton Mathew 5 · 0 0

One cannot hate that which doesn't exist.

2006-06-22 23:43:36 · answer #8 · answered by Antique Silver Buttons 5 · 0 0

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