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Knowing everything already, how is that god has given us free will?

If he know's everything, that means that the Future is predetermined. If the future is predetermined, is there such a thing as free will?

There can be no such thing as free will, if he already knows what will happen.

If god is omniscient, then he created us all to do one thing, and we dont have a choice.

Either the supposed god is NOT perfect, or we are slaves to his design.

2006-06-22 10:58:38 · 6 answers · asked by RED MIST! 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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No, you're correct. Many believers can't seem to grasp this simple concept.

In the following argument (which is the same as yours, just more in depth) the author does not assign god a gender, therefor god is referred to as "it", instead of "he" or "she".

"The problem here is that God knows everything that has happened and everything that will happen. Its knowledge cannot be wrong. There is not a single event that it has not foresaw. Given that it created the Universe the way it did, do we have free will? Consider that when God made the Universe it could see every possible result of what it was doing. Which means: it could not create something without knowing what the results would be, and without knowing how it would be affected (and effect) the things around it.

Let's say that Fred has a choice that will save his life, to accept God or not to accept God and the final choice is to be made tomorrow. God knows already what choice he will make - God cannot be wrong therefore Fred cannot choose otherwise to what God has predicted. When God created the chain of events that made Fred it also knew that it was making Fred's choice for him, and knew how the various circumstances and character would make him choose either right or wrong. Fred would go forth and make that very decision that God knew he would make, and by virtue that God knowingly set up all the factors that affected his decision, it was not up to Fred but to God to decide how Fred would fare.

This argument does not imply that God does not exist. It leaves us with three results, two of which have to be wrong.

1. God created everything with full knowledge and we have no free will to change it
2. God does not have full knowledge
3. God did not make the Universe or there is no God"

- Written by Vexen Crabtree

2006-06-22 11:01:08 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes! Even though he is omnisient and omnipotent. you still have choices in life becuase you don't know your future but God does. God loves everyone yet people still stray from him. You have the choice of what you like, and where you are going to live right? Is that not free will. Even though God knows our future, I think that it is only the future when you have a relationship with God. If you stray from him, then your future changes, and trust me when I say that life is better with God. I can honestly say that God is real and loves everyone one of use. Even Osama! PS You could get me started for the whole night on this topic.

2006-06-22 11:22:58 · answer #2 · answered by Pop a Merf 2 · 0 0

Sorry to say, but you're using faulty logic. If you attribute an all-powerful God with omniscience, he'd obviously be completely beyond our limited perspective. If he does exist, how can you fit someone/something so beyond your comprehension into the tiny box of your life experiences and boil him down to being 1) imperfect or 2) a tyrant?

Why wouldn't an all-powerful, all-knowing being have the ability to incorporate people with free will within the structure of one grand, divine design?

2006-06-22 11:23:34 · answer #3 · answered by Johnny 2 · 0 0

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2016-12-09 00:17:18 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I think we have free will because god doesn't want to feel forced to worship him. However, if you dont then you will suffer. I think that god could not make us slaves to his design because it would be too boring.. i think god must let evil and good fight o that god can show everyone that he is " the way

2006-06-22 11:08:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

He knows what you're going to do. But he doesn't affect your decision. Therefore you still have free will, and he's still onniscient.

2006-06-22 11:02:00 · answer #6 · answered by Tiff 2 · 0 0

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