There is no God except one God. henceTrinity is fake in Bible? Christians Only.?

Question

There is only one verse in the whole of Holy Scripture called the Bible which unequivocally supports this Christian dogma, and that is:
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one. " The first Epistle of John 5:7
Dr C.I, Scofield, D.D. backed by eight other D.D.'s in a footnote to this verse opine:
"IT IS GENERALLY AGREED THAT THIS VERSE HAS NO MANUSCRIPT AUTHORITY AND HAS BEEN INSERTED."
The fundamentalist Christians still retain this fabrication whereas, in all the modern translations including the Revised Standard Version (RSV) this pious fraud has been unceremoniously expunged, thus confirming this Qur’ânic refutation:
"They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three In a Trinity: for there is no God except one God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them." Holy Qur'an 5:76.

Holy Qur'an the only unchanged Holy book of God.

Answer 1

The trinity is wrong. There is no tri-une God. In all fact, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost are three separate beings. If God and Jesus were the same person, why does Jesus pray to God? Also, just to clear up another misconception among Christians, and investigators to christianity, God did NOT come down in the form of a Dove when Jesus was baptised, it was the Holy Ghost that came down in the form of a dove.

Answer 2

You have placed your arguement very well, and therefore, it is very hard to argue with. The Qur'an does not actually say that, not if it is unchanged. It is against the original text of the Qur'an to change the text in any way, it says that it can not be translated. Therefore the words you have spoken are of a changed text and this changed text would not be called the Qur'an, they would have clled it by a different name. If it is not given a different name then I would not trust it.

The question of the Holy Trinity sounds complex and difficult but really is not. In the Muslim and Buddist religion there is a similarity. Both religions beleive in continual prophets, according to my study, it is beleived that God will come to earth every so many generations. During these visits to earth God can come as a man and even (rarely) come as an animal. The purpose of these visits is to reset man and redirect him on the path of righteousness. There is much debate between all religions on this, some believe in only one prophet while others believe in many. The debate even continues as to whether the prophet is God incarnate or just a man close to God.

The Holy Trinity is complicated by the Catholic Churches unwaivering and unconditional beliefs, beliefs which personnally do not reflect my own. The questions of these beleifs is not limited to me, this is the reason that there are now many different Christian churches and some do not believe in the Holy Trinity. So it is impossible to reflect what is believed in every church, I can only convey my own beliefs. This is my belief...

There is no Trinity (atleast not in common terms) when I pray I feel the power and response of only one. This does not deny my belief in Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. It is in my heart that Jesus is God incarnate, Jesus is not separate nor is he another head on the same body. I pray to God and that includes the Holy Spirit and Jesus. In my mind I am sure of only one, but I do not hate the simple minded who need the explanation of the Trinity to understand that the Lord can do many things. The Trinity is a simple explanation of a complex being to simple people.

Thank you for your question, it is great to respond to questions from people who use there mind to come up with a question that has backing.

For more info read the book I put as a source.

Answer 3

Not all Christians believe in the Trinity. And the Bible, does not support the Trinity teaching. There are a handful of scriptures that are twisted, taken out of context and used to try to prove the Trinity. However if it doesn't agree w/ the whole Bible it is not true.

Many religions already believe what you wrote about 1John 5:7 and if you take the time to read the following you will see that many do not support this text, they realize it was an addition, and do not include them in the main body of the text, because of recognizing their spurious nature

It may first be noted that the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (KJ) found in older translations at 1 John 5:7 are actually spurious additions to the original text. A footnote in The Jerusalem Bible, a Catholic translation, says that these words are “not in any of the early Greek MSS [manuscripts], or any of the early translations, or in the best MSS of the Vulg[ate] itself.” A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, by Bruce Metzger (1975, pp. 716-718), traces in detail the history of the spurious passage. It states that the passage is first found in a treatise entitled Liber Apologeticus, of the fourth century, and that it appears in Old Latin and Vulgate manuscripts of the Scriptures, beginning in the sixth century. Modern translations as a whole, both Catholic and Protestant, do not include them in the main body of the text, because of recognizing their spurious nature.—RS, NE, NAB.

Answer 4

This is one of the many reasons why Christianity is divided into many separate sections. Most Christians believe that the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost are all to be upheld as the most important aspects of the faith. It probably has been inserted, but there are other D.D's who believe who believe otherwise. This is one of those ongoing arguments that could last eternity. There is no doubt that God is the most important out of the three, whether the trinity was added on later or not, for He is the whole point of the Christian faith. You have brought up a very interesting thought.

Answer 5

What about the satanic verses?

1 How can Muhammad be a true prophet if he spoke words from satan?

2 What is the nature of Allah, if those verses had to do with dieties related to him? Those dieties mentioned are from a Moon God figure worshipped by pagans who were around the time of Muhammad. Isn't that a little suspicious?

3 If those verses were later expunged, the Quran is not an unchanged Holy book. You should know that the bible never claims to be this type of book. It is simply a lose collection of christian texts that were assembled at some date for convenience. This is a historical fact.

4 Why was there a call for the murder of Rushdie? The facts I just mentioned above are not in dispute by ancient muslim scholars nor modern day muslim clerics. Don't they know what the implication is for Islam? They were just trying to cover it up....because they know that many if not most muslims would lose faith if they knew the truth.

I suggest you talk with a muslim scholar about this and find out the truth for yourself.

Actually, here is a definitive article based on muslim scholars and clerics about the satanic verses. Study it thoroughly before talking to the authority at your local mosque.

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Responses/Saifullah/sverses.htm

Answer 6

Go to Genesis, which your own Qur'an states that you should in the beginning.

In the first few verses of Genesis, you will see where GOD states let us make man in our own image (refering to himself, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost) You will also see that the Holy Spirit caused the waters to set back and expose land.

Just a footnote, you believe in Jesus Christ as a great Prophet. I see that written many places. But answer this for yourself, not me.
If Jesus was a great prophet, then wasnt he also a lier? and a lier could not be a great prophet. For he said, that he was the father and the father was him. For you to believe that he was great, you would have to also believe him to be a great lier. Therefore making him a fraud and not a prophet.

AND your Qur'an is not unchanged, read it yourself, and the rules I read said that anything talked about in the beginning is allowed to be erased and superceded by later writings.
That is changing, no matter what flavor frosting you put on it.

Answer 7

Christians that hold to the Trinity are useing God The father, God The Son and God The Spirit. This is from King James Version.
Trinity is Cathol thing, and I am not Catholic, so answer may be wrong or misinterperted.

Answer 8

The doctrine of the Trinity -- that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each equally and eternally the one true God -- is admittedly difficult to comprehend, and yet is the very foundation of Christian truth. Although skeptics may ridicule it as a mathematical impossibility, it is nevertheless a basic doctrine of Scripture as well as profoundly realistic in both universal experience and in the scientific understanding of the cosmos.

Both Old and New Testaments teach the Unity and the Trinity of the Godhead. The idea that there is only one God, who created all things, is repeatedly emphasized in such Scriptures as Isaiah 45:18:

"For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; ...I am the Lord; and there is none else."

A New Testament example is James 2:19:

"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well; the devils also believe, and tremble."

The three persons of the Godhead are, at the same time, noted in such Scriptures as Isaiah 48:16:

"I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me."

The speaker in this verse is obviously God, and yet He says He has been sent both by The Lord God (that is, the Father) and by His Spirit (that is, the Holy Spirit).

The New Testament doctrine of the Trinity is evident in such a verse as John 15:26, where the Lord Jesus said:

"But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father, He shall testify of me."

Then there is the baptismal formula:

"baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Matthew 28:19).

One name (God) -- yet three names!

JESUS -- That Jesus, as the only-begotten Son of God, actually claimed to be God, equal with the Father, is clear from numerous Scriptures. For example, He said:

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8).

HOLY SPIRIT -- Some cults falsely teach that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal divine influence of some kind, but the Bible teaches that He is a real person, just as are the Father and the Son. Jesus said:

"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and he will show you things to come" (John 16:13).

TRI-UNITY -- The teaching of the Bible concerning the Trinity might be summarized thus. God is a Tri-unity, with each Person of the Godhead equally and fully and eternally God. Each is necessary, and each is distinct, and yet all are one. The three Persons appear in a logical, causal order. The Father is the unseen, omnipresent Source of all being, revealed in and by the Son, experienced in and by the Holy Spirit. The Son proceeds from the Father, and the Spirit from the Son. With reference to God's creation, the Father is the Thought behind it, the Son is the Word calling it forth, and the Spirit is the Deed making it a reality.


We "see" God and His great salvation in the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, then "experience" their reality by faith, through the indwelling presence of His Holy Spirit.

Though these relationships seem paradoxical, and to some completely impossible, they are profoundly realistic, and their truth is ingrained deep in man's nature. Thus, men have always sensed first the truth that God must be "out there," everywhere present and the First Cause of all things, but they have corrupted this intuitive knowledge of the Father into pantheism and ultimately into naturalism.

Similarly, men have always felt the need to "see" God in terms of their own experience and understanding, but this knowledge that God must reveal Himself has been distorted into polytheism and idolatry. Men have thus continually erected "models" of God, sometimes in the form of graven images, sometimes even in the form of philosophical systems purporting to represent ultimate reality.

Finally, men have always known that they should be able to have communion with their Creator and to experience His presence "within." But this deep intuition of the Holy Spirit has been corrupted into various forms of false mysticism and fanaticism, and even into spiritism and demonism. Thus, the truth of God's tri-unity is ingrained in man's very nature, but he has often distorted it and substituted a false god in its place.

Answer 9

There is another, probably better scripture that supports the trinity, and it's from the Old Testament.

Genesis 18, The Three Visitors

1 The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. 2 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground. 3 He said, "If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, do not pass your servant by. 4 Let a little water be brought, and then you may all wash your feet and rest under this tree. 5 Let me get you something to eat, so you can be refreshed and then go on your way—now that you have come to your servant." "Very well," they answered, "do as you say." 6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah. "Quick," he said, "get three seahs of fine flour and knead it and bake some bread." 7 Then he ran to the herd and selected a choice, tender calf and gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it. 8 He then brought some curds and milk and the calf that had been prepared, and set these before them. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree.

9 "Where is your wife Sarah?" they asked him. "There, in the tent," he said. 10 Then the LORD said, "I will surely return to you about this time next year, and Sarah your wife will have a son." Now Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent, which was behind him. 11 Abraham and Sarah were already old and well advanced in years, and Sarah was past the age of childbearing. 12 So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, "After I am worn out and my master is old, will I now have this pleasure?" 13 Then the LORD said to Abraham, "Why did Sarah laugh and say, 'Will I really have a child, now that I am old?' 14 Is anything too hard for the LORD ? I will return to you at the appointed time next year and Sarah will have a son." 15 Sarah was afraid, so she lied and said, "I did not laugh." But he said, "Yes, you did laugh."

Abraham himself met God in the form of three divine persons.

Answer 10

No we are also to be Baptized in the Name of The Father ,Son & Holy Spirit.
Trinity is not in the Bible. And if you accept the Son of God you Will also Except Gods Holy Spirit. They then become one with you.