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If I said that I have never committed a sin, no one would believe me because its pretty much universally excepted among those who believe in sin that no one escapes it. But if no one can avoid sin, and everyone that is born will commit sin, then one can't escape the conclusion that it is part of who we are, how we are created. If that weren't the case, I could avoid committing sin if I tried really hard, right? But I can't can I? So if we avoid sin, it has to be part of us. So why should we be punished for it?

2006-06-21 14:39:23 · 11 answers · asked by Chris D 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Personally i do not believe God exist. But if God did exist and if God is as perfect and as Good as everyone says then there will be no need for Hell. If Hell does exist then maybe God isn't as loving as people say and God is really a demon. Think about it when the government "punishes" someone, it's because it's beneficial for society. What benefit is there to eternal punishment? How come God says to forgive but won't do it him/herself? Hypocritical, i think. At least that was what i thought when i use to believe in God.

2006-06-21 14:48:10 · answer #1 · answered by Still Halloween 6 · 0 0

Man was not created with sin. Sin is now part of the human nature because Adam and Eve were tricked by the serpent in the Garden of Eden and ate the apple or fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

Because they ate the fruit, all man now sins.

You are right that no one can escape it, but Sin is a choice we make.

Adam and Eve CHOSE to eat the apple and therefore sin. They were punished for disobeying God. As are we.

2006-06-21 14:46:19 · answer #2 · answered by Will Help 1 · 0 0

Who are those that God does not impute sin to? Psalms 32 verse 2

2006-06-21 16:14:06 · answer #3 · answered by euhmerist 6 · 0 0

God has (by the bible) historically gotten his panties in a bunch many times over the same argument. First he murdered his children by suffocating them with water in a great flood. Then he slayed innocent babies when he was mad at their parents in Egypt. There is no logic in the actions of this god. To give free will and then murder them is illogical. Give 10% of your salary and you will be saved? By whom? A deity worse than anything the human mind can think of?

2006-06-21 14:46:39 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

God gives us the free will to obey or disobey him. Disobeying God is sin. God gives the opportunity not to sin in every situation we find ourselves. He sent Jesus to redeem us not to condemn us (John 10:10)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%2010:10;&version=31;
We thus through Jesus now have to be co heirs in the kingdom of God

2006-06-21 14:46:23 · answer #5 · answered by natsubee 5 · 0 0

This is gonna be long, so bear with me.

Christians always bring up the ridiculous "free will" argument, as if that excuses God from royally messing up. The only way he could have given us a choice of sinning or not sinning, is if he created us with the capacity to sin. He also had to have created sin, itself, in order for us to have the choice of rejecting it. We cannot reject that which doesn't exist, right? Right.

So, here's the deal: God wants people who worship him of their own "free will." (So say the believers.) So, he creates the first humans with the ability to choose to worship him--or not to worship him, their choice. They choose not to, God gets angry and tosses them out of his nice garden as punishment. Wait, he gives them a choice of A or B, then gets huffy because they choose B? Why give them a choice at all, if he knew they would pick the wrong one and make him angry? He's all-knowing, but he didn't know they would do this? Or, he knew, but he went ahead with the plan, anyway--like an architect who knows that his building will collapse, but he builds it, anyway?

Whatever the reasons, God waits until humans have multiplied (how many decades or centuries is not given) and then decides that he doesn't like all the sin that's going on and what the world needs now is not love, sweet love, but a good old-fashioned flooding. Why did it take him so long to reach this conclusion? He should have known, from the start, that humans were going to turn out evil--after all, he MADE them that way, he GAVE them that choice, and Adam set the example for his descendants to follow! Is God thick as a brick, or what?? Anyhoo, God sends a flood, killing even innocent children in his zeal to rid the world of the sin that HE invented in the first place. Only Noah and his immediate family survived.

You'd think, being the most righteous person that ever lived up to that point, that all humans who came from him would also be righteous. If Adam, by sinning once, could make all of humanity sin, then surely Noah, by being righteous, could make all of humanity righteous. Isn't that how it works? As it turns out, Noah was a drunken jerk. First thing he did, upon exiting the ark and setting up housekeeping, was to plant a vineyard and get drunk on wine. His sons found him sprawled naked in his tent, yada yada...you know the story. Every story thereafter, throughout the OT, is a morbid recounting of the sins committed by various people against various other people, and of God blaming them for it and sending them curses ranging from drought and boils to rains of fire and brimstone.

Then there's the NT, with its dying-resurrecting savior promising to return X number of centuries in the future to save humanity...from what? Why, from God, of course! God had to send himself to Earth and sacrifice himself to himself in order to save humanity from himself. And THAT sentence, my friend, is God's "plan of salvation" in a nutshell. If there is bigger example of cosmic incompetence, I'd like to know what it is.

2006-06-21 15:29:07 · answer #6 · answered by Antique Silver Buttons 5 · 0 0

It's your decision.

Choose life.

Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

2006-06-21 14:42:19 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

have you not figured out that all religions need bad guys otherwise it makes them irrelevant. in their obsessive need to dominate they will tell you anything to make you scared and tow the line. heck if we were all good there wouldn't be anybody to save, therefore no more leadership would be needed. people are like sheep when one goes they all go, except for some of us. thats why they call us black sheep. thats the one good thing about free thinkers we dare to not be led.

2006-06-21 14:55:31 · answer #8 · answered by rpm53 3 · 0 0

yep, you make the choice and you suffer it.They say curiosity killed the cat. If that's true then are thirst for knowledge condemned us to no the difference of right and wrong. (and suffer our decisions)

2006-06-21 14:46:37 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It's not fair, that's largely why I reject Christianity (and Islam, or any other bigoted religion).

2006-06-21 14:46:06 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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