Ok, so everyone thinks that Adam and Eve were the first, right?

Question

Ok, so everyone thinks that Adam and Eve were the first humans right, but when Cain killed Able he was cast out into the tribes of man. So, who where the tribes of man?

Answer 1

"Ding - dong!" goes the doorbell. Is it Avon calling? Or perhaps Ed McMahon with
my three million dollars? No, it's Yahweh's Witlesses again, just wanting to have a
nice little chat about the Bible.......
Boy, did they ever come to the wrong house! So we invite them in: "Enter freely and
of your own will..." (Hey, it's Sunday morning, nothing much going on, why not have
a little entertainment?) Diane and I amuse ourselves watching their expressions as
they check out the living room: great horned owl on the back of my chair; ceremonial
masks and medicine skulls of dragons and unicorns on the wall; crystals, wands,
staffs, swords; lots of Goddess figures and several altars; boa constrictors draped in
amorous embrace over the elkhorn; white doves sitting in the hanging planters; cats
and weasels underfoot; iron dragon snorting steam atop the wood stove; posters and
paintings of wizards and beasties and lots more dinosaurs; warp six on the star-filled
viewscreen of my computer; a five foot model of the USS Enterprise and the skeleton
of a plesiosaur hanging from the ceiling; very, very many books, most of them dealing
with obviously weird subjects.... To say nothing of the great horned owl perched on
the back of my chair and the unicorn grazing in the front yard. You know; early
Addams family decor. And then, of course, it being late in the morning, you can
expect Morning Glory to come wandering out naked, looking for her wake-up cup of
tea. Morning Glory naked is a truly impressive sight, and the Witlesses look as if she'd
set titties on stun as they stand immobilized, hands clasped over their genitals.
With the stage set and all the actors in place, the show is ready to begin.
Their mission, of course, is to save our heathen souls by turning us on to "The Word
of the Lord"- their Bible. I guess they figger some of us just haven't heard about it yet,
and we're all eagerly awaiting their joyous tidings of personal salvation through giving
our rational faculties to Jesus.
Everytime they come around, I look forward to trying out a new riposte.
Sure, it may be cruel and sadistic of me, but hey, I didn't call them up and ask them to
come over; they entered at their own risk! This time should be pretty good. After
letting them run off their basic rap while lovely Morning Glory serves us all hot herb
tea, I innocently remark: "But none of that applies to us. We have no need for
salvation because we don't have original sin. We are the Other People."
"Hunh?" they reply eloquently. It's clear they've never heard this one before.
"Right," I say. "It's all in your Bible." And I proceed to tell them the story, using their
own book for reference: (Genesis 1:26) The (Elohim) said, "Let us make humanity in
our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the
sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild beasts and all the reptiles that crawl
upon the earth." Elohim is a plural word, including male and female, and should
properly be translated "Gods" or "Pantheon." (1:27) The Gods created humanity in the
image of themselves, In the image of the Gods they created them, Male and Female
they created them. (1:28) The Gods blessed them, saying to them, "Be fruitful,
multiply, fill the earth and conquer it. Be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of
heaven and all living animals on the earth."
Now clearly, here we are talking about the original creation of the human species:
male and femal. All the animals, plants, etc. have all been created in previous verses.
This is before the Garden of Eden, and Yahweh is not mentioned as the creator of
these people.


The next chapter talks aobut how Yahweh, an individual member of the Pantheon,
goes about assembling his own special little botanical and zoological Garden in Eden,
and making his own little man to inhabit it: (Gen 2:7) Yahweh God fashioned a man
of dust from the soil. Then he breathed into his nostrils a breath of life, and thus the
man became a living being. (2:8) Yahweh God planted a garden in Eden which is in
the east, and there he put the man he had fashioned. (2:9) Yahweh God caused to
spring up fromt he soil every kind of tree, enticing to look at and good to eat, with the
tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the middle of the garden.
(2:15) Yahweh God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eden to cultivate
and take care of it. Now this next is crucial: note Yahweh's precise words: (2:16) Then
Yahweh God gave the man this admonition, "You may eat indeed of all the trees in
the garden. (2:17) Nevertheless of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you are
not to eat, for on the day you eat of it you shall most surely die." Fateful words, those.
We will refer back to this admonition later

Then Yahweh decided to make a woman to go with the man. Now, don't forget that
the Pantheons had earlier created a whole population of people, "male and female, "
who are presumably doing just fine somewhere "outside the gates of Eden."but this
set-up in Eden is Yahweh's own little experiment, and will unfold to its own separate
destiny. (2:21) so Yahweh God made the man fall into a deep sleep. And while he
slept, he took one of his ribs and enclosed it in flesh. (2:22) Yahweh God built the rib
he had taken from the man into a woman, and brought her to the man. Right. Man
gives birth to woman. Sure he does. But that's the way the story is told here. (2:25)
Now both of them were naked, the man and his wife, but they felt no shame in front
of each other. well, of course not! Why should they? But take careful not of those
words, as they also will prove significant.....

Now this next part is where it starts to get interesting. Enter the Serpent: (Gen. 3:1)
The serpent was the most subtle of all the wild beasts that Yahweh God had made. It
asked the woman, "Did God really say you were not to eat from any of the trees in the
garden?" (3:2) The woman ansered the serpent "We may eat the fruit of the tree in
the garden. (3:3) "But of the fruit of the tree int he middle of the garden God said,
'You must not eat it, nor touch it, under pain of death." (3:4) Then the serpent said tot
he woman, "No! You will not die! (3:5) "God knows in fact that on the day you eat it
your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, knowing good and evil." What a
remarkable statement! " Your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, knowing
good and evil." The Serpent directly contradicts Yahweh. Obviously, one of them has
to be lying. Which one, do you suppose? And, if the serpent speaks true, wouldn't you
wish to eat of the magic fruit? Wouldn't it be a good thing, to become "like gods,
knowing good and evil"? Or is it preferable to remain in ignorance?

(Gen. 3:6) The woman saw that the tree was good to eat and pleasing to the eye, and
that it ws desirable for the knowledge that it could give. So she took some of its fruit
and ate it. She gave some also to her husband who was with her, and he ate it. (3:7)
The the eyes of both of them were opened and they realized that they were naked. So
they sewed fig leaves together to make themselves loincloths. The author maked an
interesting assumption here: that if you realize you are naked you will atomatically
want to cover yourself. Further implications will unfold shortly...........

(Gen 3:8) The man and his wife heard the sound of Yahweh God
walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from Yahweh God among
the trees of the garden (3:9) But Yahweh God called to the man. "Where are you?" he
asked. (3:10) " I heard the sound of you in the garden,"he replied. " I was afraid
beacuse I was naked, so I hid." (3:11)"Who told you that you were naked?" he asked.
"Have you been eating of the tree I forbade you to eat?"

And so the sign of the Fall becomes modesty. Take note of this. The descendants of
Adam and Eve will be distinguished throughout history from virtually all other
peoples by their obsessive modesty taboos, wherein they will feel ashamed of being
naked. It follows that those who feel no shame in being naked are, by definition, not
carriers of this spiritual disease of original sin!!!!

(Gen. 3:12) The man replied, "It was the woman you put with me: she gave me the
fruit, and I ate it." Right. Blame the woman. What a turkey! (3:13) Then Yahweh God
asked the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman replied, " The serpent
tempted me and I ate." So of course she blames the serpent. But just what did the
serpent do that was so evil? Why, he called Yahweh a liar! Was he wrong? Let's
see......(3:21) Yahweh God made clothes out of skins for the man and his wife, and
they put them on. Out of skins?? This means that Yahweh had to kill some innocent
animals to pander to Adam and Eve's new obsession with modesty!

And now we come to the crux of the Fall. Yahweh had said back there in chapter
(2:17), regarding the fruit of the tree of knowledge, that "on the day you eat of it you
shall most surely die." The Serpent, on the other hand, had contradicted Yahweh in
chapter (3:4-5): "No! you will not die! God knows in fact that on the day you eat it
your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, knowing good and evil." So what
actually happened? Who lied and who told the truth about this remarkable fruit? The
answer is given in the next verse: (3:22) Then Yahweh God said, "See, the man has
become like one of us, with his knowledge of good and eveil. He must not be allowed
to stretch his hand out next and pick from the tree of life also, and eat some and live
forever."

Get that? yahweh himself admits that he lied"! In fact, and in Yahweh's own words,
the Serpent spoke the absolute truth! And moreover, Yahweh tells the rest of the
Pantheon that he intends to evict Adam(and presumably Eve as well) to keep them
from gaining immortality to go with their newly-aquired divine knowledge. To
prevent them, in other words, from truly becoming gods! So who, in this story , comes
of as a benefactor of humanity, and who comes off as a tyrant? THE SERPENT
NEVER LIED!!.

This story, to digress slightly, bears a remarkable resemblance to a contemporary tale
from ancient Greece. In that version, the Serpent (later identified as Lucifer, the
Light-Bearer) may be equated with the heroic titan Prometheus, who championed
humanity against the tyranny of Zeus, who wished for the people to be mere slaves of
the gods. Prometheus, whose name means"forethought" gave people wisdon,
intelligence, and fire stolen from Olympus. Moreover, he ordained the portions of
animal sacrifice so that humans got the best parts (the meat and hides) while the
portion that was burned tot he gods was the bones and fat. In punishment for this
defiance of his divine authority, Zeus condemned Prometheus to a terrible
punishment for an immortal: to be chained to a mountain in the Caucasus, where
Zeus' gryphon/eagle (actually a Lammergier) would devour his liver each day. It
would grow back each night. Zeus promised to relent if Prometheus would reveal his
great secret knowledge: Who would succeed Zeus as supreme God?
Prometheus refused to tell, but history has revealed the answer...... The interesting
thing about all this is that the Greeks properly regareded Prometheus as a noble hero
in his defiance of unjust tyranny. One may wonder why the Serpent is not so well
regarded. On the contrary, snakes are loathed throughout Chritiandom. (3:23) So
Yahweh God expelled him from the garden of Eden, to till the soil from which he had
been taken. (3:24) He banished the man, and in front of the garden of Eden he posted
the cherubs, and the flame of a flashing sword, to guard the way to the tree of life.
So that's it for the Fall. But the story of Adam and Eve doesn't end there.
(Gen4:1) The man had intercourse with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave
birth to Cain....(4:2)She gave birth to a second child, Abel, the brother of Cain. Now
Abel became a shepherd and kept flocks, while Cain tilled the soil. (4:3) Time passed
and Cain brought some of the produce of the soil as an offering for Yahweh, (4:4)
while Abel, for his part, brought the first-born of his flock and some of their fat as
well. Yahweh looked with favor on Abel and his offering. But he did not look with
favor on Cain and his offering, and Cain was very angry and downcast. Well, why
shouldn't he be? Both brothers had brought forth their first fruits as offerings, but
Yahweh rejected the vegetables and only accepted the blood sacrifice. This was to set
a fruesome precedent: (4:8) Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let us go out:" and while
they were in open country, Cain set on his brother Abel and killed him.
Accursed and marked for fratricide, (4:16) Cain left the presence of Yahweh and
settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden. We can assume that the phrase "left the
presence of Yahweh" implies that Yahweh is a local deity, nad not omnipresent. Now
Eden, according to (Gen. 2:14-15), was situated at the source of the Tigris and
Eupharates rivers, apparently right where Lake Van is now, in Turkey. "East of Eden,"
therefore, would probably be along the shores of the Caspian Sea, right in the
Indo-European heartland. Cain settled in there, among the people of Nod, and
married one of the women of that country. Here, for the first time, is specifically
mentioned the "other people" who are not of the lineage of Adam and Eve. ie: the
Pagans. So let's look at this story from another veiwpoint: There we were, around six
thousand years ago, living in our little farming communities around the Caspian Sea,
in the land of NOd, when this dude with at terrible scar comes stumbling in out of the
sunset. He tells us this bizarre stroy, about how his mother and father had been
created by some god named Jahweh, and put in charge of a beautiful garden
somewhere out west, and how they had gotten thrown out for disobedience after
eating some of the landlord's forbidden magic fruit of enlightenment. He tells us of
murdering his brother, as the god of his parents would only accept blood sacrifice,
and of receiving that scar as a mark so that all would know ham as a fratricide.
The poor guy is really a mess psychologically, obsessed with guilt. He is also
obsessively modest, insisting on wearing clothes even in the hottest summer, and he
has a hard time with our penchant for skinny-dipping in the warm inland sea. He
seems to believe that he is tainted by "sin" of his parent's disobedience; that it is in
his blood, somehow, and will continue to contaminate his children and his children's
children.
One of our healing women takes pity on the poor sucker, and marries him....
(4:17) Cain had intercourse with his wife, and she conceived and gave birth to Enoch.
He became the builder of a town, and he gave the town the name of his son Enoch.
With both of their first sons not turning out very well, Adam and Eve decided to try
again: (4:25) Adam had intercourse with his wife, and she gave birth to a son whom
she named Seth....(4:26) A son was also born to Seth, and he named him Enosh. This
man was the first to invoke the name of Yahweh. Now it doesn't mention here where
Seth's wife came from. Another woman from Nod, possibly, or maybe someone from
another neolithic community downstream in the Tigris-Euphrates valley. But her folks
also, cannot be of the lineage of Adam and Eve, and must also be counted among "the
other people".
But whatever happened to Adam? After all, way back there in chapter Gen.2:17,
warning Adam about the magic fruit of knowledge, Jahweh had told him that"on the
day you eat of it you shall most surely die." So, when did Adam die? (Gen.5:4) Adam
lived for eight hundred years after the birth of Seth and he became the father of sons
and daughters. (5:5) In all, Adam lived for nine hundred and thirty years: then he died.
Hey, that's pretty good! Nine hundred and some odd years isn't bad for a man who's
been told he's gonna die the next day!
Well, the story goes on, and maybe next time the Witlesses come to visit I'll tell more
of it. But suffice it to say that those of us who are not of Semitic descent (ie. not of
the lineage of Adam and Eve) cannot share in the Original Sin that comes with that
lineage. Being that the Bible is the stoyr of that lineage, of Adam and Eve's
descendants and their special relationship with their particular God, Yahweh, it
follows that this is not the story of the rest of us. We may have been Cain's wife's
people, or Seth's wife's people, or some other people over the hill and far away, but
whichever people the rest of us are, as far as the Bible is concerned, we are the Other
People, and so we are continually referred to throughtout.
Later books of the Bible are filled with admonitions to the followers of Jahweh to
"learn not the ways of the Pagans...." (Jer 10:2) with detailed descriptions of exactly
what it is we do, such as erect standing stones and sacred poles, worship in sacred
groves and practice divination and magic. And worhsip the sun, moon stars and the
"Queen of Heaven." You must not behave as they do in Eygpt where once you lived:
you must not behave as they do in Canaan where I am taking you. You must not
follow their laws." (lev 18:3) For Yahweh, as he so clearly emphasises, is not the god
of the Pagans. We have our own lineage and our own heritage, and our tale is not told
in the Bible. We were not made like clay figurines by male deity out of the "dust from
the soil" We were born of our Mother the Earth, and have evolved over aeons in her
nurturing embrace, All of us, in our many and diverse tribes, have creation myths and
legends of our origins and history: some of these tales may even be actually true.
Like the descendants of Adam and Eve, many of us also have stories of great floods,
earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and other cataclysms that wiped out whole
communities of our people, wherein "I alone survived to tell the tale" Nearly all of
our ancestral tribes (and especially those of us who today are reclaiming our own
Pagan heritage) lack that peculiar obsessive body modesty that seems to be a hallmark
of the original sin alluded to in the story of the fall. We can be naked and unashamed!
Why, our Goddess even tells us, "as a sign that you are truly free, you shall be naked
in your rites." Not being born into sin, we have no need of salvation, and no need of a
Messiah to redeem our sinful souls.
Neither heaven nor hell is our destination in the afterlife; we have our own various
arrangements withour own various deities. The Bible is not our story; we have our
own stories to tell, and they are many and diverse. In a long life, you may get to hear
many of them.... May you live long and prosper.!!!

by Oberon (Otter) Zell

Answer 2

Cain and Abel were the first people mentioned in the bible, minus Adam and Eve. But they were not the first to be born. Adam and Eve had several other children before Cain and Abel. Also, the Cain and Abel story could have taken place over a long period of time. It doesn't say otherwise.

Answer 3

The Garden of Eden story is based on the Anannaki, which are described in the Sumerian tablets. These people were mining gold in the region and wanted the humans there for hard labor, slaves. They also thought the humans had sex when they should have been toiling thus giving us the shame of sex. Eve was a male in the original version and the 'snake' one of the Anannaki trying to help the humans get away from these evil 'lords'.

Answer 4

Adam lived 930 years. The Bible does not say 'when' Cain killed Able. It could have been around 600 A.C. How many people could we have in 600 years. Look at population growth charts-there could be a lot of folks in a few years.

Answer 5

Adam and Eve commited a serious sin by eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. So no they will not be resurrected. As far as Satan goes he transformed himself into the serpent to mislead EVE.

Answer 6

I don't think Adam and Eve were first.
What you've pointed out is just another contradiction in the bible. It is illogical to think that the entire population of the world decended from one man and one woman.
There were people living ALL OVER the world thousands of years ago and there is scientific evidence to prove it.

Answer 7

Cain lived to be hundreds of years old, I'm sure his MANY brothers and sisters and maybe even his own children already filled up the earth. That's where all your tribes are.

Answer 8

according to my logic if a black couple have children then their children would be black. If adan and eve were white then we all be white, and if they were black then all humanity will be black today, however we humanity are very diverse, which suggest that adan and eve were not the only ones or first ones, at the same time or before or after there were others around the world as well as shown by fossil evidence.

Answer 9

Cain and Abel were not the only children bore by eve they were the first people who was mentioned in the bible.

Answer 10

This assumes that they had no other children. See, they could have had many, since they had years to do this, and no contraceptives. Also, women weren't mentioned too often in Jewish literature. They could have had several hundred people with children, cousins, grandchildren, the like...

Answer 11

Read Quran my friend.You will learn all about it!