How can anyone look up at the stars, or to the mountains and trees and tell me that God doesnt exsist?

Question

Seriously though, all of you who dont believe in God, who dont believe that Jesus died for you sins, who dont believe that He created the earth and everything in it for His glory and enjoyment? how can you say that it was all a coincidence, that it was a big bang? I am not trying to insult, nor am i looking for any mean or snide remarks, just a question and perhaps a educated discussion with someone

Answer 1

Lets see, the world and universe are too "wonderful" to be formed by themselves, to exist by themselves huh?

You must think there's nothing wonderful about god. Maybe god ain't complex and there's nothing that indicates order or intelligence in him.

Because, if you claimed god is a wonderful being, a complex being, an intelligent being, he'd necessarily need a creator, wonderful and complex things do not exist without creation (according to your "logic").

If an unknown being can exist without creation, why can't the universe exists without creation. Why should we pick what we don't know as a starting point and not what we know?

Personally I don't think those stories in the bible are more plausible than those in the Eddas or in the Iliad.

Would you please answer me this question without falling in a typical "petitio principii" kind of argument? It'd be refreshing if I heard something new.

I'm sure there could be several different hypothesis to answer this question without proposing "god".

Answer 2

there is so much crime, rapes, wars, diseases, abuse, suffering,hunger, for years and years, why doesn't God stop that at once and make us all happy and free of such pain, he has the power right? however that is not happening or will ever happen because God does not exist. God as many religions was created by man since the stone era as a way to understand the rain, the thunder, the sun, etc. See God is an individual belief in supreme power, when we die is our individual end, but the world goes on. Nobody has ever seen God, what we know about God was written by men, there is no hard evidence of such existence, I suggest you take a teology, astronomy, or whatever class or read a science book no to change your mind about God but to have a more open view or consider the possibilities, you might be wrong or right, I might be wrong or right, but at least I am more open to both ways.

Answer 3

There is reason and logic behind everything you describe. Even love, for instance. People always use love as an example of something you can't prove is there but know it exists just like god. My rebuttal to this would be that after people spend a lot of time interacting well together, they form a bond that we call love. We can describe love. We can map out its biochemical roots in the body.

God, on the other hand, cannot be described with positive attributes. Positive as in identifies a certain recognizable trait that sets the thing in question apart from other things. God is often described as "incomprehensible, infinite, etc..."
So is nothingness.

Going with your argument, god is the explanation behind the stars, mountains, etc... One cannot use unknowns to explain knowns. Using knowns to explain unknowns is scientific discovery, using unknowns to explain things already known is epistemological lunacy.

Answer 4

Very closed minded question/statement. I completely believe in G-d and the awe that can happen if you open yourself up to it when experiencing some of the wonders of this world. But Jesus I do not accept as anything more then a man. Your question implies that all non-Christians do not believe in G-d.

Also were you there when G-d created everything? That you know for sure he didn't use the big bang or evolution in his creation.

Answer 5

I look at the trees and feel a calm.
~~I do not attribute my inner calm to a deity.

I look at the stars and feel a vastness within.
~~I do not attribute my feelings of vastness to a deity.

I look at the sky, the clouds, the geese, and the infamous Ohio River and feel inspired.
~~I do not attribute this inspiration to a deity.

I attribute all my feelings of inspiration, vastness, inner calm to my being human. Emotions can be a very powerful tool. :-) I am a spiritual atheist, and I feel spirituality as much as the theist does. I just do not attribute all this to a deity. That all there is to it. :-)

Why do you assume that atheists cannot feel inspired or spiritual? ;-)

The environment around me is not a "big bang". It is an environment that took thousands--millions--of years to form and shape itself. I would rather face the cold truth that the Universe is not an entity that "cares about us". If an asteroid is to hit earth tomorrow, that's the end of us. The universe could care less.

I made my peace with that. :-) It's my life that is more important than worrying about what a deity might think or feel. :-)

Answer 6

There is a lot of science involved in nature and our universe. A lot of it, we still don't understand. Our little human minds can't comprehend the power that is our world... so they need a way to explain it. To you, God might be the reason for why the sky is endless and stars float effortlessly throughout it. To others, there is a scientific property or formula that we just haven't found yet. I think everyone has a belief that there is SOMETHING greater than a human mind out there... "God" is a way of putting a name on it. Others are okay with not knowing for sure.

Answer 7

Yes, I too wonder the same when I looked up at the stars, or to the mountains and trees and have some religious nut try to convince me that God exist.

Funny how the same view can omit different views yet still share similarities.

Answer 8

Because you have a difference of opinion. In all honesty, it basically boils down to which side of the argument you choose to believe. That doesn't make you any more right than the person who believes the opposite. You could have 100 experts from your side of the debate present all their respective facts/figures/etc and you'd have no better chance changing someone's mind as they would if they presented 100 experts from their side with all their respective facts/figures/etc to changing your mind. I would hate to live in a world where everyone thought the same thing (hmm, Germany in the 1940s). Diversity is what makes it such a great world to live in.

Answer 9

i'm unlikely to make relaxing of you, i think of that makes issues worse. I basically ask of you to be open minded for a million minute this is all. i do no longer blame you for being the variety you're. Your mothers and fathers are probable chirstian you have surrounded your self with the comparable sort of persons and all you pay attention is god this and Jesus that. It does not help that regrettably this u . s . a . Is a Christian one (this is why we basically isn't #a million in something anymore, oh wait nicely nonetheless be huge sort a million with our militia... Wel be known with the aid of fact the dumb *** with out brains). in any case our universe is so huge! There are planets basically like this one do you truly have faith that god is calling down at this spec of rice, while in comparison with something of the universe? the only ingredient that tells me Is that Christians, Muslim or any faith are so self based, it truly is all approximately them, as though they have been some thing particular while easily there is not any longer something particular approximately any of you. So please open your eyes! I be you... i admire my u . s . a . dearly and that i do no longer choose it to flow down the drain with the aid of fact of religious procedures of thinking, this is the place all our dumb suggestions come from.

Answer 10

Sure, when I look up to the stars, I see the beauty that God created, but that doesn't prove that "Jesus died for my sins" is true. Is there God? Yes. Did Jesus die for my sins? No.