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1) If every thing has a cause how did the world come into being by itself? (So there is God.)

2) Is it not better to believe and find out there is no God than to not believe and find out there is one? (So u must beliveve.)

2006-06-21 05:26:46 · 28 answers · asked by boogie man 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

If you can do better please bring them on!!!

Both religious and the atheistic... Profoundly stupid... that is the criteria!

2006-06-21 05:34:33 · update #1

28 answers

That sounds like two questions out of my Philosophy 100 course!!
Well there are as many arguments against the existance of God and there are for it and no one side can prove the other wrong.

1) this one is definitely one of the weaker arguments that there is a God, so you can definitely not count on it. However, some philosopher did modify it to state that 'every thing t hat came into existance in the universe has a cause for it's existance and that cause is god.' this one's still week because all it states is that there was a cause. We still cannot prove that that cause was God.

2) Well this one is just a belief, there is no definite knowledge in doing so. This one, I believe is called Pascal's wager. He states that if there is no God and you do not believe in God then there is gain for you. If there is no god and you believe in it then there is loss. However, if there is a God and you believe in it you have lot to gain BUT if there is a God and you do not believe then there is a lot to lose (HELL).

So in that scenario, either way it seems that you are better off believing in the existance of God.

2006-06-21 05:36:52 · answer #1 · answered by hatezfate 2 · 3 0

I'll tell you what I consider profoundly stupid.

A guy that posts an opinion question like this with no backup ideas of his own. Unlike some of the people that answered something that smacked of some level of thought, your assertions were baseless (as you provided no reason for your statement) and hence are no more than idiotic ramblings. You're a bit of a sham and a pretentious philosopher.

And now to address your obvious superiors as you are a waste of my time:

To farien3 and Realistic_human:

1. Your answers to number one though seemingly failsafe can be counter argued thus.

To Realistic - Many could argue successfully that the "more to life and existence" you talk about, is the very God that they believe in.

To farien - Not everything has a cause? Then that actually moves the whole affair into the realms of mysticism doesn't it? I mean, the laws of science dictate that there is always a cause and effect. A tornado doesn't just happen. There are always underlying causes of it. Can you at least explain then the genesis of the causes then? See where I'm headed?


2. Realistic you have a valid point. Or have you. For this to be true you would have to then accuse all the religious in times past of knowingly peretuating a fraud. Are you sure you want to go down that road? And the fear you claim is instilled by religions? What manner of fear is this? Fear to do evil? That religion told people to live a goodly life and avoid things that were harmful to themselves and their communities?

To farien - You have a profound philosophical point. But you assume that a person can never find out whether or not there is a God. Hmm. Now isn't that ironic. You who claim that reasoning shows irrefutable proof that God dosn't exist says that one will never know if there was never a God. Because its all based on faith. Faith in what I have to ask. Their has to be a pay off at the end right? Else then there would be no need for faith. If the pay off didn't come then you would be justified in claiming so right? So here is a challenge thrown back at you: Can you prove their is no pay off. For if you want to destroy all the God-believing humans out there, youd have to prove this.

I'm waiting...

2006-06-21 06:04:45 · answer #2 · answered by Cain 4 · 0 0

1. The problem with the first question is it assumes everything has a cause. There is no particular reason everything HAS to have a cause, just because we can't imagine it otherwise.

2. The problem with the second question, is that if you believe there is a God you will NEVER 'find out' there isn't, because your belief is not based on facts or logic, but on faith. Faith is unfortunately neither dependant on facts or logic. Therefore, it's 'better' (I have no idea what you mean by 'better') to NOT believe and then discover otherwise, if it should come to pass that evidence comes to light.

2006-06-21 05:33:12 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Actually, you have stated two irrefutable logical points. Hence, your questioning ploy. You don't have an adequate defense, yet you do not want to believe. So you compromise, insult it as though it is beyond the scope of your dignity to qualify it with an answer, and move on in bitterness and vitriol, without ever rationally addressing the issue.

2006-06-21 05:30:30 · answer #4 · answered by RandyGE 5 · 0 0

The evidence of life is all around you.

To believe this all just happened is foolish.

We live on a planet teeming with life. Plant life with approximately 250,000 species. Animal life with over a million species. Scientist are learning just how complex life is. So complex that it requires design. The evidence of design requires a designer. Scientists are also learning the conditions for life, just how perfect conditions here on planet Earth are to support all this life.

2006-06-21 05:32:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You don't have to do anything. I don't tend to think about the world's existence. I figure that God was the cause of the Big Bang if the big bang took place. I like the second idea. I don't find either of them stupid but I find you judgmental. If you don't want to believe, don't, but stop criticizing those of us who do.

2006-06-21 05:31:09 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

They are in a class of their own. If everything has a cause, how can they then posit that there must necessarily be a first cause? This is begging the question. They just arbitrarily say, "It stops here, of course." Pascal's Wager. Such a weak argument.

2006-06-21 05:38:20 · answer #7 · answered by Rev. Still Monkeys 6 · 0 0

You must be a none believer like my self. Though I don't believe the questions are studpid because stupid is as stupid does. I think that this questions can reinforce your crititcal thinking by proving your own believes as truth.

2006-06-21 05:34:20 · answer #8 · answered by El Luigy 3 · 0 0

1) There is more to life and existence than any human being could possibly know, and to make up fairy tales like the existence of God is very pretentious of us.

2) This is how religion has prospered for thousands of years- by instilling fear into the masses.

2006-06-21 05:32:31 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Did Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?

The whole burrito/rock thing--

Who thinks Atheists are stupid? Or some variation---

Anything with the watchmaker analogy

Can't you see the proof?

The list goes on...

2006-06-21 05:36:41 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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