What do people think about these new breeds like "Goldendoodle" and "labradoodle" ?

Question

Breeders are now breeding various breeds of dogs with poodles in order to try to make the dogs not shed. Poodles don't shed their hair, and this is the trait they are going after. The problem is genetics does not work that way, and really all you are creating is a mutt, not a breed. I just dont think its right to charge hundreds of dollars for a mixed breed, falsley claiming its a new purbred breed. I think these breeders need to read up on genetics to understand that if one dog doesn't shed, and one dogs does, mixing them won't always produce a dog that doesn't shed.

Answer 1

Someone I know bought a labradoodle because she was told it wouldn't shed. I have never seen a dog shed so much, it's unbelievable how much hair he drops.

These crosses are usually bred from very poor parents too, no decent breeder would sell a dog to someone to breed whatever oodles or whatever poos. Which means no health testing, and some of the breeds have the same health problems in common.

Just what we need, more mutts bred on purpose. Its just ridiculous, shelters are full of crossbreeds already. But as long as people will shell out big money for their crossbreeds instead of walking down the street to their local shelter for one they will continue to breed more.

They will NOT become recognized as a breed because the 'breeders' do not breed beyond an F1 cross. There isn't even a recognized standard. Pretty hard to develop a breed if you stay at the whatever x Poodle stage. Its all about some easy cash.

Answer 2

I do agree to an extent. I think developing a new breed with the mixture of the desirable traits is fine...but you are right in that just giving a dog a fancy name doesn't justify charging the prices some of these breeders charge.

I have also read articles and various comments that several generations down the road, the desirable characteristics -- like the no shedding -- is lost.

Genetics is very tricky and I don't think most breeders understand it. We breed rabbits and it takes time and many generations to get the traits coming through on a consistent basis. The hap-hazard breeding many of these breeders do is just for the money -- not for the good of the new breed or the owners.

Answer 3

Genetics says that these new crossbred animals will be better in some traits than their parents due to hybrid vigor. However, the chances that the new "breed" will be just like the original breed becomes less and less. Basically, you have less of a chance of being consistent with this new "breed." Also, this hybrid vigor is lost after about three generations of crossbreeding. I think that it is great when people get a mutt and help animals without homes, but breeding animals to make new false breeds is almost false advertisement. It can take thousands of years to make a breed of animal purebred and these dogs are nowhere near being purebred. I would never pay thousands of dollars for one let alone hundreds when just years ago (and sometimes still today) people would be hard pressed to give these dogs away,

Answer 4

Supply and demand!! As long as people buy them, people will breed them. I looked at Labradoodles because I wanted a dog that wouldn't shed and I thought it would be a good mixture of the two breeds. They were adorable. Everyone says they don't shed and they don't know why they don't, because what you said is true. Some of them had the fur look of the Lab, not curly, and they did not shed.

I ended up with a Maltese. People said they shed too. Not a lot, but they do shed. Mine does NOT shed even a little bit.

Look at how money people are paying for the small designer dogs. They are mutts too. My daughter paid $450.00 for one. She loves him to pieces. I guess you have to weigh the difference in the purebred and the non purebred traits and decide which is best for you. I have had much better luck with purebreds.

Answer 5

I think they are gloriffied mutts and they have just as many health problems as the purebreeds do. Whenever you cross 2 breeds that both are genetically prone to joint disease or heart disease, you get a mutt with the same genetic predisositions. And just because we are 1/2 poodle does not mean we will not shed, it just means the puppies have a 50% chance of taking after the poodle and 50% chance of taking after the lab which sheds the worse of any dog breed I know.
Please just go rescue a dog and save the big dollars for pet insurance to take the best possible care of your pooch.

Answer 6

i just have to say, that your question seems a little one sided, and misleading. mixed breeds like these have been around since the 1950's. people do not buy/breed these dogs for any reasons different from breeders of ANY dog. these dogs obviously are a mix breed MUTT...which are obviously not recognized by the AKC as a purebreed. i think anybody that would believe otherwise, probably should do more research before buying any dog.

mixed breeds actually are the safest way to breed dogs. this ensures of NO inbreeding. certain dogs have been inbred so much and so closely that genetic problems are inevitable. dogs such as cocker spaniels (that became popular in the 80's) are notorious for genetic problems such as cataracts and hip problems. litters and litters of purebreds are born with a cleft pallet because of breeding dogs that are too closely related. these problems do not occur in cross bred dogs.

lastly, i have 2 AKC certified maltese's and 2 AKC certified lhasa apso's. i also have a cockapoo. i love them all, they're all 100% healthy, and 100% happily trained. the only difference was...the cockapoo was 1/4 of the price of AKC certified dogs from champion lines.

a dog is a dog...you have to find one you can love. purebred or mutt...it really shouldn't matter.

Answer 7

As I mentioned in another thread they're not a breed but a high $ mutt. There's nothing wrong with a mixed breed if you want a mixed breed. Paying $500-600-700 for a mixed breed is nuts tho' IMO
They're producing puppies solely for the pet market - something real breeders get blamed for doing

Answer 8

Most of them are lovely dogs, but they are in most (not all, but most) cases bred by people who charge masquerade as legitimate breeders and charge legitimate breeder prices for mixed breed dogs without health clearances or other practical considerations. Designer dogs are a puppy miller's dream.

There are some valid health gains with mixed breed dogs (it's not "hybrid vigor"... mixed breeds are not hybrids, and there's also something called "outbreeding depression" that no one ever mentions which can balance the advantages of mixing), but your chances are just as good with any rescue dog that someone did not intentionally breed in order to make a buck.

Answer 9

The idea is to create a new breed of dog that has the best traits of both breeds. Yes, it's about not wanting them to shed, but it's also about allergies. What if I want the loyalty of a lab but I'm allergic? It's always been the same throughout time - if there's nothing to suit the needs of the people, create it. How do you think we got chihuauas from wolves??? By your reasoning, only wolves are purebred.

Answer 10

I think that if ppl dont want to take the time to look up the breed and just go by what the seller is saying then it serves them right. And as for the price if ppl want to pay it then the price is going to stay the same. Labradoodles are not the only cross breed there is. And as far as purebreed goes the breeders where trying to get AKC to accept them as purebreeds.