Joey Smith?

Question

so what does everybody think of joey smith? do you think it was all made up or what? i know the story so dont try and preach to me.

the guy who founded/created (whatever word you want to use) the mormon religion.

Answer 1

Joseph Smith, the person, is not made up. There are plenty of documents that prove his existance in the early 1800's. His 'religion' which I *was* a member of was a way to get what he wanted from gullible people. Based loosly on christianity, white-supremacy, masogynism, mysticism, Masonry and control-freakishness, it had enough appeal to last for over 200 years. Based on its continued moves toward Christianity, It shouldn't last another 200.

Answer 2

I am mormon/ LDS so my opinion would be biased don't you think? anyway some things about prophets that may offend people Prophets are human, not perfect or infallible not to say joseph smith did any of these things this is just an example of things prophets "in the Bible did"
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1. Can Prophets lie?
a. Abraham - Gen 12:10-20.
b. Isaac - Gen 26:7.
c. Jacob - Gen 27:19,24,32,35.
d. Jeremiah - Jer 38:24-28.
e. David - 1 Kg 2:8-9.
f. Micaiah - 1 Kng 22:14-15; 2 Chr 18:13-14.
g. Elisha - 2 Kg 6:19; 8:10,14-15.
h. Peter - Matt 26:69-75.

2. Can a Prophet get drunk?
Noah - Gen 9:21.

3. Can a Prophet, for a small fee, use his supernatural powers to tell where to find lost animals?
Samuel - 1 Sam 9:6-8,20.

4. Can a Prophet, for a large fee, use his supernatural powers?
Elisha - 2 Kg 8:8-14.

5. Can a Prophet have false prophecies?
a. Jonah - Destruction of Nineveh (Jonah 3:1-10).
b. Ezekiel - Nebuchadnezzar will capture the Island city of Tyre (Ezek 26:2-14).

6. Can a Prophet gamble?
Samson - Judges 14:12-20.

7. Can a Prophet be angry at God?
Jonah - Jonah 4:1,9.

8. Can a Prophet curse children?
Elisha - 2 Kg 2:23-24.

9. Can a Prophet desire vengeance?
a. Psalmist - Ps 137:8-9.
b. Jeremiah - Jer 18:19-23.

10. Can a Prophet contradict a former prophet?
a. Moses & Jesus on divorce (Deut 24:1-4 cf Matt 19:3-8).
b. The writer of 2 Sam and 1 Chro on who caused David to sin? (2 Sam 24:1 cf 1 Chro 21:1).
c. Moses & Ezekiel on generational punishment (Ex 20:5; 34:7 cf Ezek 18:20).
d. Moses & Paul on God's justification of the wicked (Ex 23:7 cf Rom 4:5).
e. Moses & Paul on circumcision (Gen 17:1-17 cf Rom 4:6-12; Gal 6:15).
f. Moses & Paul on the Aaronic/Levitical Priesthood (Ex 40:12-15; Num 25:10-14 cf Heb 7:12).

11. Could a Prophet fail to understand a revelation?
a. Peter - Acts 10:3,17.
b. Paul - 1 Cor 13:9-12.

12. Can a Prophet give counsel not approved by the Lord?
Nathan - 2 Sam 7:1-6.

13. Can a Prophet worship false gods?
Solomon - 1 Kings 11:4-10.

14. Can a Prophet accept a position as the chief of magicians, astrologers, and soothsayers?
Daniel - Dan 5:11-12.

15. Can a Prophet be immoral?
a. Samson - visits a prostitute (Judges 16:1).
b. David - his adulterous affair with Bath-sheba (2 Sam 11:2-5).

16. Could a Prophet give two contradictory prophecies?
Micaiah - 1 Kg 22:14-17.

17. Could a Prophet lie to another Prophet in the name of the Lord?
The old prophet in Beth-el - 1 Kings 13:11-21.

18. Can a Prophet accuse God of deception and betrayal?
Jeremiah - Jer 20:7.

19. Could a Prophet go out in public naked?
a. Isaiah - Isa 20:2-3.
b. Saul - 1 Sam 19:24.
c. Micah - Mic 1:8.
d. David (semi-naked) - 2 Sam 6:14,20.

20 Can Prophets attribute doubtful characteristics to God?
a. God is hot-tempered - Ex 32:10-12,14; Num 14:11-16; 16:20-22,45; 24:3-4; 2 Sam 6:6-7.
b. God hardens peoples' hearts to destroy them- Ex 4:21; 7:2-4; 10:1-2; 14:17,27-28; Josh 11:20.
c. God punishes David for a sin he "moved" him to commit - 1 Sam 24:1,10,15,17.
d. God causes prophets to lie - 1 Kings 22:13-23.
e. God deceives prophets - Ezek 14:9; 1 Kg 22:13-23.
f. God is the cause of evil in a city - Amos 3:6.
g. God gave laws and judgments which were not good, including child sacrifice - Lev 27:28-29; Num 31:40-41; Judges 11:30-32,34,39; 2 Sam 21:1-9; Ezek 20:25-26,31.
h. God commands and condones slavery - Gen 9:25-27; Lev 25:44-46; 1 Cor 7:21-24; Eph 6:5-8; Col 3:22-25; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-25.
i. God sends evil spirits to influence men - 1 Sam 16:14-15; 18:10.
j. God will delude men - 2 Thess 2:11.
k. God changes his mind - Ex 32:14; Gen 22:17/Deut 28:61-68; 1 Chro 21:15; Amos 7:3,6; Jonah 3:9,10; Jer 26:3,13; 2 Sam 24:16.
l. God orders ethnic cleansing - Deut 2:26-35; 7:2-5,16; 20:16-18; Josh 1-11; 1 Sam 15:2-3.
m. God kills the innocent - Josh 7:1,5,24-25; 1 Sam 1,10,15,17.
n. God gets mad when obeyed - Num 22:20-22.

21. Can a prophet deny Christ in a moment of stress?
Peter denies Christ - Matt. 26:34-35, 69-75

22. Can a prophet wish he was never born?
Jeremiah - Jer 20:14-18.

23. Can a Prophet call God a liar?
Jeremiah - Jer 15:18.

24. Can a Prophet kill?
a. Moses - Ex 2:12-14.
b. Samuel - 1 Sam 15:33.

25. Can Prophets argue and disagree with each other?
a. Paul & Peter - Gal 2:11-14; 2 Pet 3:15-16.
b. Paul & Barnabas - Acts 13:2; 15:36-39.

26. Can Prophets be prejudiced?
a. Jesus - Matt 15:22-27.
b. Jonah - Jonah 1:2-3; 4:1.
c. Peter - Gal 2:11-14.

27. Can Prophets be arrogant, boastful, cowardly, cursing, stubborn, doubting, insolent, permissive of abuse, deceitful, hateful to spouse, and having a fierce anger?
a. Moses - Ex 4:10-14; 5:22-23; 32:19-20,26-28,30; Num 20:8-12.
b. Peter - Matt 16:21-23; 26:69-75; John 13:8-9; 18:10-11.
c. Abraham - Gen 16:6.
d. Jacob - Gen 27:12,35; 29:30-31.

Prophets aren't infallible. They are ordinary humans with the same weaknesses and trials we have but possess extraordinary callings and spiritual endowments.

Answer 3

You mean Joseph Smith? He was the one who supposedly found the scrolls for the start of the Mormon Church. He also had an angel translate them for him. He couldn't read them himself so Levi sent an angel to help him dechiper them. The man did exist but as for the scrolls and the angel stuff, I'm not so sure. I think he was smoking that peyote leaf too much. LOL.
I was married to two LDS who swear they aren't Mormon but a reorganized church of the Latter Day Saints, a Mormon cast off I guess. I had to read the book of Mormon in their church. That is why I chose Wicca, lol.

Answer 4

I understand the basic teaching of Joseph Smith, though I do not agree with them. I believe all prophets have some basis in truth, though Joseph Smith DOES seem to be a bit farfetched.

Answer 5

Can you give more info on who Joey Smith is? I have never heard of him or what religion or anything!

Answer 6

Joseph Smith is a real historical person.

Answer 7

i find it hard to believe, but I'd have to reasearch it more and talk to real Mormans to understand the whole story. But right now I'm convinced it was all made up. But I still respect what they believe, even though I myself don't agree.

Answer 8

whose that?