Do you religious people envy us, miserable atheists for anything?

Question

I do envy your belief in life after death and that you have a feeling of security that someobody “above in the sky” is taking care of you. Is there anything you would like to have that atheists do?

Answer 1

Thank you for your honesty.

I feel as if I should envy you something, but I'm afraid I don't. It's not out of arrogance or smugness, I just don't.

I don't think of you as miserable, I promise you.

Answer 2

You may think it logical to put all religious people in one category but truly there are wide differences. Atheism is usually temporary. Like a crawling baby won't crawl for long--he'll be walking. I can't think of anything I would like to have that atheists do. If I had such a painful conscience that I could not bear to live even after death that would do it for your question I guess, but that is not the case.

Answer 3

yeah great answer pizza guy...whatever...my humble answer comes now...i really envy that a true atheist can live without the hand of God behind, that he can be truly free, they can bear all the stress of heading nowhere, it's great not having an approval searching in a greater being and their life...to open to all possibilities, to have the chance of truly being objective...no bounds around the neck or hands, no chains of moral and ethics...and over all things: not having to follow the shepherd and being just another lamb of God...hail to independence and being different!!!!....this was the things that made me burn my crucifix to become atheist...yet now i have other beliefs so i still be religious (my religion) and that's what envy from a true atheist...i am not one...

Answer 4

Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't envy your non-beliefs...

I've been down that scenic route before but, in all honesty, I became an Atheist for only for a second or two, while I considered myself to be a Freethinker for the most part of a few decades in my early adult life...

Peace be with you!

Answer 5

There is nothing about atheism I would like. As a matter of fact, I can not imagine how it feels to be an atheist and to feel so lonely, forsaken and mortal. I imagine I would feel like a walking piece of meat and that's it. Not an offense, just my mental idea of what I would feel like if I believed there was no God. But I don't know how you guys view life...

How does it feel?

Answer 6

i don't think any theist would ever admit that they envy some part of being atheist. (like the freedom of making your own choices not the bible making them for you) it would be a chink in the faith armor. and those who have something like that are usually agnostic, not theist.

Answer 7

Are you really miserable?

If so, keep searching.

Are you absolutely certain of your beliefs (atheism)?

If so, then yes, I would like to have your "certainty" about my own beliefs/hopes/wishes/dreams .......... :)

Answer 8

No, just concern 4 ur lost souls.

Answer 9

Sorry nothing springs to mind

Answer 10

PLEASE EXCUSE THE IGNORANCE OF THE OTHER ANSWERS!

I welcome this oppurtunity to promote dialogue between a deist and an atheist.

I would like to share this:

I believe there is evidence that there is a real purpose for life and living, and consequently, the idea of someone or something which consciously set the universe in motion.

For example, look at the physical universe. There are laws and metaphysical certainties. Light travels at a universal constant speed. Gravity affects matter at exactly 32 feet per second per second. There is light and dark, hot and cold, and laws which govern the universe which we cannot alter, only begin to understand.

Our understanding of science has always changed and developed, but existence itself remains constant. This means that man did not create himself, nor can he dictate the laws of reality. This means that there is a real, physical, governing force at work. Scientists, atheists, and deists can all agree on this.

The only disagreement is whether or not the forces of nature exist as a consciousness which we call God.

We already know we are at the mercy of natural law. If we study those laws we can use them to our advantage, such as the development of machines. Without a stable, natural constant in our universe, science could not exist.

What I am driving at is that there is a fundamental and unalterable Truth to our existence. Whether you call this truth God or not depends on your individual beliefs. But the force of Truth does exist, I would define it as the Grand Unifed Field, which Einstein was attempting to discover. Every physical force, such as gravity or electrodynamics or nuclear physics, depends upon this central law, which encompasses all things and maintains natural balance. The unbreakable and omnipresent force in existence is Truth itself.

You can ignore the truth, you can lie and attempt to hide the truth, you can argue and debate the truth, but the truth exists independent of human consciousness and design. We cannot alter the truth. It is eternal.

This law, this force, this omnipresent thing, in my opinion, is the hand of God, or his presence in the physical world. Without this thing called truth, nothing would exist, because everything would not conform to any predictable pattern or obey any constant. Chaos and truthless existence is nonexistence as we know it.

This is why I say that what we call God is seen here in the physical world as that thing which is always there, but never noticed; even though without it, we would not exist. The laws of nature are abolutely real. Otherwise your consciousness could not possibly understand what I am saying to you right now, because all of it would be gibberish, and it would be in a constant state of change.

The security and comfort of knowing that there is an all powerful force at work which governs the entire universe is one benefit, but the mere fact of our existence is perhaps the greatest benefit of truth itself. I personally believe that God does not interfere in the affairs of humanity in a way that resembles Biblical teachings. There is no need for divine intervention, because the universe is exactly the way it is meant to be, including evil.

If there was no purpose, lesson, or knowledge to be gained from evil, if there was no moral purpose for human understanding of evil, then God would not allow it to exist. It is part of the natural world because without it, there would be no difference between right and wrong, and no value or consequence to any action or thought, everything would produce the same result, neither good nor bad.

I do not know if there is life after death, but I take comfort in the fact that there is MEANING and PURPOSE TO OUR EXISTENCE. I don't really care one way or another if there is eternal everlasting bliss, because if there isn't, I am not going to be around to know about it or even care.

One thing I admire about atheists is that many of them have learned to reject superstition and mythology. This is why I am a deist. There is no objective proof that any one version of the Bible, Torah, Koran, or any other human literature contains an accurate description of the almighty God. I seriously doubt every single "revealed" religion. My religion is the truth itself, and I place my trust in that, and believe that it is God's hand which maintains structure, order and morality in existence.
(Consider that there would be no such thing as morality if evil were to be nonexistent.)

I admire how atheists do not blindly believe in anything. However, there is far too much evidence pointing towards structure, logic, orderliness, morality, and even intelligence the likes of which we cannot comprehend, contained within the very fabric of all existence, which convinces me that the truth not only exists, but it is representative of a righteous and conscious mind at work.

Doubt is just as neccessary as faith. Here's why: If you never doubt yourself, you will never think that you are wrong about anything, and you will become a single minded extremist who does things like suicide bomb innocent people. Or tell someone they are going to hell if they do not follow your version of Christianity. If you never doubt your actions, you will never refrain from doing evil. If you never doubt your understanding of the world, then you will never be open to learning new things or listening to people whom you disagree with.

Faith without doubt is extremism, just as devotion without honor, or action without virtue, freedom without justice, liberty without moderation.

Doubt is the foundation of all science, without which this computer would not exist. Faith in the truth, (Or Truth as I call it) however, is just as neccessary. Self-doubt and an awareness of something greater than you is how humanity stops being barbaric and learns how to be civil.

I sincerely hope this was helpful.