If Christ is the only true God, then who was he praying to in Hebrews 5:7? His God? Himself?
Please, do not post verses from the srciptures because I do not believe the scriptures were well preserved, since a lot of people have been modifying the Bible, and actually making their own versions of Bibles.
Just give me a simple logical explanation, for what God was doing, according to your beliefs and the verse posted.
Thanks!
2006-06-19
17:50:24
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To those who are saying that Jesus and the father are one, I know there is a verse which says so, but, I do not care about that verse, because there are a lot of other verses, which go against that "oneness" .. plus, I believe you guys don't think that the Mosaic laws were first ordained by Jesus.. so again, STOP POSTING VERSES, rather explain how God prays!
Thanks again.
2006-06-19
18:08:50 ·
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I really don't care to answer...and am not all that familiar with the subject of the ??? anyway...
2006-06-19 17:53:53
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answered by cafegrrrl 5
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Jesus, as a being who was fully God and fully man, was praying from the human part of himself to God the Father. It is difficult to understand the Triune God of Christianity and without going into various passages, etc. which you do not believe in, would be near impossible to explain. I find it curious you quote a Bible passage to make an argument when you feel the Bible is corrupt though. That is logically inconsistent. I do believe in the Bible and that most translations have not lost the truth set forth in the writings of the Holy Spirit inspired people. The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the only differences in today's translations from then are some minor punctuational changes which have not changed the meaning of the Word. Blessings.
2006-06-19 17:59:24
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answered by originaltigger61 6
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If you do not believe that the scriptures are reliable than why are you quoting them?
Your statement that a lot of people have been modifying the Bible and making their own version is inaccurate. People have not been modifying the Bible. There have been many translations of the same text.
How is one to answer any question about Jesus outside of the Scriptures?
If you do not believe the scriptures than you have a much bigger problem than who Jesus was praying to in the Hebrews 5:7.
2006-06-19 17:58:12
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answered by vendredi 2
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In order to understand it you have to understand and accept the concept of the Trinity, otherwise it would make no sense. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. In that verse, Jesus was praying to God the Father. So it both was and wasn't to Himself. I know you said don't quote Scripture, but really, you started it, so if you look at Luke3:21 and 22, the baptism of Jesus, you can see all three parts of God at once. Jesus being baptized, the Holy Spirit descending like a dove, and God speaking from Heaven, "Thou are my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."
2006-06-19 17:59:27
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answered by pg1955 2
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They probably belongs to one of these cults that deny the trinity. But
YES, it is in the Old Testament. Genesis 1:1: In the beginning, Elohim created. That is not Yahweh, Elohim is a plurality, meaning more than one. Just like Cherubim and Seraphim, angels. Anything that ends in “im” is more than one.
Now, we know that God the Father was there, and you believed that. But in Genesis 1:2, the Holy Spirit moved upon the face of the waters. Then in Proverbs 30:4, it says, who hath created all the ends of the earth? Who hath created the world? What is God's name and what is His Son's name? That’s not the New Testament, that’s the Hebrew Scriptures. In Isaiah 9:6-7, it says, Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given. And what is the name of this son? The "Mighty God" in the next verse.
2006-06-19 17:55:11
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answered by Anonymous
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He was praying to God the Father.
Christians believe in the Trinity, which is the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. One god, but three parts of the whole.
Actually, there is much evidence that the Bible that we have today is much the same as when it was first written. There has been some issues in translation, but they are very small, but the meaning is extremely accurate to the old texts.
2006-06-19 17:55:43
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answered by BH 1
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You say not to use bible verses to answer but your question is about a certain verse in Hebrews. Don't you think thats just a little contradictory? Sola Scriptura. The scriptures and only the scriptures are what we are suppose to follow. 2 Timothy 3:15
15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
2006-06-19 18:09:54
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answered by hosebroom1212 3
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You can believe what you like but the common belief is that christ is an aspect of god, just as the father and holy spirit are. They are not literally the same person in the way that they are all controlled directly from the same consciousness, they are individual in that sense.
Another view could be that christ, in praying, was attempting to teach that all people, even the most holy and pious, need to pray.
2006-06-19 17:57:43
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answered by hitako47 2
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It is impossible to answer the question given the restrictions you place on the answer. Your contention that the scriptures are not well preserved flys in the face of the available evidence, but that can not be proven to you without pointing to the evidence which includes a great deal of scriptural detail, history and archealogical data.
There is no short answer to this question of the nature of a triune being. It is a complex issue, and you certainly won't find an answer that satisfies you if you're not willing to at least consider all the possible positions involved… including the validity of scripture.
2006-06-19 18:04:14
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answered by Pastor Mac 1
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This is very much like the riddle about what came first; the chicken or the egg? Of course the chicken cuz you really don't think that God is gonna sit on that first egg, do ya? Well, there's your answer then since Jesus had to come from somewhere since He obviously went back there eventually too! So answer your own question, since you claim to be well versed (no pun intended) in Biblical passages & just want logic!
2006-06-19 17:57:41
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answered by brmick1 3
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The Trinity is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. They are one in the same. Jesus is God the Son. He prays to God the Father.
2006-06-19 17:57:22
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answered by areionone 1
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