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It was a competition, a guy led by one stroke. His competitor hit a good ball in the middle of the fairway very far. The leader then hit his drive pushing way right into the woods. They all walked towards the lead player's ball, and found it burried deep inside a dead crow's body laying on the ground.
The question is, can the leader lift, clean and place the ball without penalty, or does he play as it lies.

2006-06-19 16:15:39 · 6 answers · asked by Titan 7 in Sports Golf

Please also elaborate your ruling.

2006-06-19 16:19:52 · update #1

A hint: What a dead crow do on the tree top?

2006-06-19 17:51:06 · update #2

Another hint: This is from the little red book!

2006-06-20 03:58:20 · update #3

Gum wrapper, you're pretty close.

2006-06-20 14:06:15 · update #4

This is very important ruling you see. If he is allow to lift, clean and place, the leader would have still at one stroke lead loosing only distance. But, if he has to make a drop, he'll then loose both a stroke and the distance, and this is a true story.

2006-06-20 14:08:20 · update #5

6 answers

The first thing which has to be determined is whether the ball was in motion when it entered the crow or if it had come to rest and was moved by the crow.

If it was at rest, the bird is considered an "outside agency" by the rules. The player shall incur no penalty and the ball shall be replaced before the players plays another stroke

If the ball, while in motion, entered the crow, it is considered stopped by any outside agency, no penalty is incurred and the ball shall be played as it lies."

Smash the crow!...or take one stroke penalty as unplayable lie and take a drop per the drop rule for an unplayable lie.

He cannot clean the ball if he is required to play it as it lies. If he takes an unplayable lie penalty, he may clean his ball.

2006-06-20 05:40:34 · answer #1 · answered by ½«gumwrapper 5 · 2 0

The crow's dead body is officially cited in the rules as a "temporary obstruction". When a temporary structure hinders a shot, the player is allowed to lift, clean and DROP without penalty.

Note, the drop is no closer to the hole.


You've asked if the drop is required, and it is. If the player placed the ball, he made a silly error. All relief ends with a drop. Lift clean and place applies to standing water and embedded lies.

The only circumstance where a place is allowed is when the drop does not work under the rules. 3 drop attempts that roll out of the designated drop zone are followed by a legal place.

That did not happen in this case. The leader erred.

Clause in the rules:

"the point on the course nearest to where the ball lies must be determined that (a) is not nearer the hole, (b) avoids interference as defined in Clause II and (c) is not in a hazard or on a putting green. The player must lift the ball and drop it without penalty within one club-length of the point"

2006-06-19 17:16:21 · answer #2 · answered by aross07 4 · 0 0

He can lift, clean and play the ball without penalty. The crow is not a part of the golf course. Mickelson hit a ball in a trash can yesterday and was allowed to remove it without penalty.

2006-06-19 16:19:37 · answer #3 · answered by Rob M 1 · 0 0

he can move the ball with no penaly because the birds body is not a part of the golf course hazzards

2006-06-20 05:14:43 · answer #4 · answered by Jennifer c 1 · 0 0

If he was a real golfer he would whack that crow's body with the driver.

2006-06-19 16:54:33 · answer #5 · answered by smoleklyn 2 · 0 0

Movable obstruction no penalty

2006-06-19 18:21:41 · answer #6 · answered by Doug 7 · 0 0

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