Yes it's completely illogical, as much of Christianity is.
2006-06-19 14:16:44
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answered by Anonymous
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You slander our Bible, yet feel that Christians who call the Quran man made and full of errors, must die. Thats not real tolerant.
The Bible has VERY FEW Translation mistakes. You're Muslim leaders are liars and seek to discredit the Bible BUT YET they will try and quote from the Bible and distort it to say it tells about Muhammad. If our Bible is corrupt as they say, they would not be using scripture from the Bible.
Jesus was created by God - and was God's son. Jesus was Baptized and the Holy Spirit (which is God not a separate person or being) came into him. He was born again of the Spirit of God (God is Spirit).
What you are essentially saying is Blasphemy because you are saying God can not create a human being to be his son, nor can God have the ability to call anyone his Son. You limit God to a mere mortal and say he has no power, and you are same as saying God is only a human like you.
Jesus is not God - that is true - but he IS God's Chosen Son and God made his home IN Jesus. Muhammad hijacked certain scriptures from the Bible to lay claim to all passages concerning Jesus for himself. Therefore Muhammad is a liar and a thief an defied God's ordained Word.
And your Quran can not be translated into the English Language without some errors any more than the Bible can. So you see, every language translation of the Quran by Muslim logic applied to the Bible - indeed does have other Changed versions.., and not the same original.
Does Islam still have the leaves and rocks that the original Quran was written on? I don't think so. Forgeries most likely. You see, the original Quran was written on STONES and Palm Leaves and on Papyrus and various other materials some of which would not have endured for the years that passed before the decision to write copies of the Quran to paper where it can be stored. So many parts of the Quran were lost and guessed at and made up to fill in any gaps.
NOW - Everyone knows that Muhammad could not read or write. He relied strictly on others to write down his words. He had no idea if the scribe(s) were writing word for word, taking short notes or writing what they wanted.
And it is likely that some of the Quran was made up because according to one of the Hadiths, Muhammad heard one of his followers reciting the Quran and he could not remember those particular passages of His Quran. The Quran was tampered with OR Muhammad had a very bad memory. Take your pick.
[Bukhar: vol.VI, no. 562]
2006-06-19 14:38:02
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answered by Victor ious 6
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Jesus has always been, He is was God from the beginning. God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.....the Son is not created. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are ONE God. They work together as one unit and are equal in power. Jesus is the visible of the invisible God. They have different roles and one purpose. God is a singular plural.....like a lion with 3 heads or an assembly.....that is why He is called the triune God. All things were made through Jesus who is also called the Word. God spoke the world into existance through His Word. By the way, the people who wrote the bible had the Holy Spirit in them making God the author of the bible. God is powerful enough not to allow His word to be corrupt. if God wrote it it could not be touched or read because Gods power is so great it would kill them instantly to try to do such.
2006-06-19 14:23:04
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answered by storge07 2
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Yes. That would be illogical. It is also untrue. Where did you get the idea that Jesus was Created? Don't you remember that Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the Almighty? Oh, sorry, that's a scripture.
Everything comes down to the size of God. If God is not big enough to preserve His own Word, then your god is a wimpy idol, handmade to order. The God I worship not only preserved His Word, and is true, but also has proven its authenticity. Which is something no other "holy book" can do. Not even close!
2006-06-19 14:11:38
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answered by Anonymous
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If you can't use scriptures what do you have to go by?
The word of god you don't accept but some man's idea.
Buddy you don't make any sense.
Colossians says God created Jesus as the first of his creations.
He lived in heaven with God and he created the earth, people and everythihng else. The first chapter and it is in every bible.
fNot made up. The apostle Paul wrote it and he knows a lot more than you do. jCan't make this stuff up.
Read the book
2006-06-19 14:14:43
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answered by Anonymous
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your question can only be answered by scriptures unless you know someone that has the rock hard evidence your looking for to explain this. the only real way to look at it is its all faith. jesus was a real person born of a virgin, how can that happen. jesus could raise the dead heal the sick give sight to the blind stuff that even our doctors as far advanced as they are today cant do. jesus was buried in a tomb and rose again on the 3rd day how is this possible lol it just fathoms the mind doesnt it?now before i get any further the comment about the scriptures might be made up is kinda off the wall thats your opinion that some of them may be made up the bible says that all scripture is givin by inspiration of God 2tim3:16. think of it like a sail boat you cant see the wind but its there when it blows it fills the sails and pushes the boat the scriptures was written quite similer only the wind is the holy spirit and when its present it is what pushed the pen that wrote the scriptures when it stopped the writing stopped the men just held the pen up thats all. to get to your answer. God didnt create jesus, jesus is God john 1:1 says in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God this word is jesus look at verse 3 it says all things were made by him and without him was not any thing made that was made. now the God that created everything in genesis was jesus. jesus said hisself that i and my father are 1. look atverse 14 of john chapter 1 it says and the word was made flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory the glory as of the only begotten of the father full of grace and truth. see you actually have God in 3 forms God the father God the son and God the holy ghost (or spirit) and all three of them are one 1 tim 3:16 says God was made manifest in the fleshsee the body of jesus without the spirit is nothing just like anybody else the spirit is what drives the body like a car without the driver in it, it goes nowhere God needed a way to interact with man so he could teach him ways of righteousness but he couldnt come to us in his heavenly form the bible says no man has seen Gods face and lived and we were just to corrupt and sinful that we couldnt go to him in heaven so he found a way to do it by assuming a body made of flesh then he put his spirit in it now the car had a driver and the model name was jesus. see while jesus was on earth God was still on the throne in heaven and jesus became the mediator between God and man doing Gods will see the big difference between this man of God and all the others was jesus didnt have adams blood running thru him like we do he had Gods blood thats the part the holy spirit had in overshadowing mary so see jesus was a manifestation of Gods spirit but the way that spirit was manifested brought about jesus as his son thru the virgin birth. so after all that it still comes down to faith and i dont know if you can explain it to the point of complete understanding because without faith it is impossible to please God heb 11:1 says now faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen. in other words if you knew beyond shadow of a doubt thru physical evidence that all this was true then you wouldnt need faith. its not a question of logic or illogic its more of faith or faithless you either believe or you dont i pray as youve read this if ya did i know it was quite lengthy lol that it has brought you to some type of understanding and i know you asked that no scriptures be used but as you seen you want an honest answer then the only answer has to come from the bible its the only book that has the answers for every question. hope it helps
2006-06-19 15:05:22
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answered by anthony p 2
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Jesus was not created by God, Jesus is God in human form, both 100% Man and 100% God. This is one of the key pillars of the christian faith and in no way pretend to understand but instead rely on faith.
Sin has separated God from Man such that no relationship can exist because God is holy and we are not and our sin has condemned us to a spiritual death. However, Jesus loves us so much that he was willing to die for us so that we may have a relationship with God Almighty.
Lots of scriptures talk about the mystery of God, etc and if you are interested I can give you lots more information.
2006-06-19 14:49:31
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answered by vladdythephotogeek 1
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How do you know that there is a God if you don't read the Scriptures? How do you know there is a Son of God if you don't read the Scriptures? Why do you quote the Scriptures in your question and then say don't use scriptures in your answer. The Scriptures do not say that God created Jesus, so your premise is wrong and your question can't be answered.
2006-06-19 14:14:16
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answered by oldguy63 7
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How can you ask someone not to quote scripture? That is where christians find answers. If I were to ask you a question about the earth's crust, would you give me an answer made up, or look it up? You are asking a question that you don't really want an answer too, only stirring up mischief. If you so interested in Jesus, then you have a few choices; first pray, read the bible and find christian fellowship. If you want answer so bad, just keep doing what you are doing. Take care:)
2006-06-19 14:17:27
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answered by Anonymous
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God saved Adam and Eve and they both went
to heaven after Calvary.Not if Adam Gods created son left heaven and was begotten of his father as a MAN/GOD he would be human able to die yet Divine as God.
Jesus was the second Adam begotten of a
Virgin thus he was human and equal with God
and Jesus was SINLESS when he died on
calvary and shed his Blood to take the punishment of Adams race from the Garden of Eden all the way to the end of time.Jesus BLOOD was the only way that we could be
placed back into Gods Family.
Jesus Gods Son left heaven and took our
punishment so we can leave this life and go to heaven.Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
In Christ in Love,
TJ57
2006-06-19 15:17:28
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answered by TJ 57 4
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It is true that believing the history of the universe as presented in the Bible is a venture of faith, but it doesn't matter what you claim to believe, it is a venture of faith. There is no other book which has been written over thousands of years by many authors and still presents a cohesive account of how this world began, how the original plan was destroyed by man, and how God reconciles man back into the original plan. I invite you to read it again with an open mind. God bless.
2006-06-19 14:28:39
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answered by saddlesore 3
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