What does John 10:28-29 mean?

Question

It seems to say that Jesus and Paul believe that once saved always saved. As show in John 6:39 and Phillippians 1:6.

Answer 1

Yes. Once a person is saved, they never need to worry about their salvation again. If they worried about their salvation, it would usually be because of some type of sin they thought they wouldn' t be forgiven of.

Jesus died on the cross and said, "It is FINISHED". He died for his Chosen Ones, shed his blood for the Chosen Ones. Any person that has the desire to come to him ....come.

The problem isn't with Jesus and his atoning sacrifice for us...it is that there are FALSE professions from humans.

Some people SAY they are christians...but they really aren't because they don't have the Holy Spirit.

On that day....many will say, "Lord, Lord...didn't we....

and He will say, Depart from me, I never knew you."

Answer 2

John 10 29

Answer 3

John 10 28

Answer 4

In the greater context of this passage, Jesus is defending himself against being stoned for blasphemy...for saying that he was the Son of God...and anyone who is part of his 'flock' (believers) is of God (not God 'himself'). He has also accused those who would stone of being non-believers, since only non-believers would question is statement. So, if you want to read into it about anyone who has been 'saved'...who believes in him...as a permament condition which is irrevocable, I'm not sure where that is being said. However, in John 6:37 (not 39), the Sermon on the Mount passage, "All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out," He is speaking about those who believe in Him. This is where you may be able to see that as long as you believe, you are 'saved'...not necessarily forever...since you always can 'change your mind'...either way. I'm not sure what your alluding to with the Phillippians' passage...since it is a prayer of thanksgiving...and the second coming of the Christ... The only similarity between these three very different passages might be a reaffirmation of the holiness of the Christ and that it is right and good to be a believer in Him...which may be construed to mean being 'saved.'

Answer 5

You are reading into this what is not intended. I am a simplistic Christian, I believe in taking what Jesus says at face value, not trying to read into what He's "really" saying.

The story you took the verse from is where the Jews are asking Him "be clear, are you the Christ or aren't you?". His response is that yeah, He's the Christ, but not for them. He's saying that we as Christians belong to Him, because God gave us to Him for His own. It's not implying anything else other than that.

Answer 6

Your interpretation doesn't fit the context. The Jews did not ask about once-saved-always-saved, but whether Jesus is the Messiah.

Answer 7

That is in fact what the Bible says. Romans 10:9 says "Confess with thy mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God hath raised him from the dead, and thou shall be saved".

That's it, and it is forever. What a cruel God it would be that would make you wonder everyday if maybe you were going to Heaven.

the ironic part is that it is so simple, most people cannot grasp it.

Answer 8

John 20:28 And Thomas responded and mentioned unto him, My LORD and my God. 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, on the grounds that thou hast obvious me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that experience now not obvious, and but have believed. Thomas used to be watching upon the resurrected Lord Jesus and Believed he has risen from the grave. That is what Jesus menat. Blessed are the ones in order to "BELIEVE" upon him. BY FAITH ALONE AND NOT PHYSICAL SIGHT LIKE TODAY CHRISTIANS Hebrews eleven:one million Now religion is the substance of matters was hoping for, the proof of matters now not obvious. THE GOSPEL one million CORINTHIANS 15:one million-four 15:one million Moreover, brethren, I claim unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which additionally ye have got, and where ye stand; 15:two By which additionally ye are stored, if ye hold in reminiscence what I preached unto you, except ye have believed in useless. 15:three For I introduced unto you to start with that which I additionally got, how that Christ died for our sins consistent with the scriptures; 15:four And that he used to be buried, and that he rose once more the 3rd day consistent with the scriptures: John three:sixteen For God so cherished the arena, that he gave his best begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him will have to now not perish, however have permanent existence.

Answer 9

When Jesus said, (Matthew 5:13) "Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men", then how could salt lose its saltiness?

In the same place (Matthew 5:29) he says, "And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." The argument implies he spoke to a heaven-bound crowd in danger of losing out, not to a 'totally depraved' group who had no hope of heaven before his atoning sacrifice and resurrection.

In Matthew 8:11-12, Jesus says, "And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth"--who are the "children of the kingdom" that obviously were once "in" and may then be "out"?

In Matthew 18:23-35 is an interesting account that ends saying, "Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses."

In 1 Peter 4:17 is an interesting statement, "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" But the best is in Ezekiel 18, like verse 24, "But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to All the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die."

Careful, if we find ourselves splitting hairs, we start looking like the warning in 1 Timothy 1:4, "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith." I suspect we have better things to do than argue such in a forum like this.

Answer 10

correct in the universe there is no time now is the only moment that really exists !! therefore once saved always saved!!