burdon of proof:?

Question

atheist cant prove a negative like i cant prove Bigfoot doesn't exists.

so the burdon of proof is on me to prove God does exists but when i give my reasons atheists dont listen anyway. so whats the point

-creation of matter
-fulfilled biblical prophecy
-world history / current events panning out just like the bible said it would
-the conscience instilled in you
-unexplainable healings
-crystal clear pepsi
-personal testimonies

Sure the KJV might have a contradiction of 15 but that doesnt make fulfilled biblical prophecy any less of a fact.

what else do you want? the 10 commandments written in the sky?
does God have to come to your door and try to sell you magazines?

Answer 1

Yes. Until God makes itself real to me I won't believe.

Answer 2

Creation of matter??? You've got to be kidding.

Fulfilled biblical prophecy??? Where?

World history / current events??? Again, where?

Conscience??? Chemical reactions in the brain combined with the values one is raised with. Nothing supernatural there.

Unexplainable healings??? Like those people who are paid off to "stand up and walk" before the big stadium revival?

Crystal clear Pepsi??? It's horrible and unhealthy!

Personal testimonies??? What about the personal testimonies of those who have seen ZERO evidence of God's existence?

The Bible is full of contradictions, which is no surprise given the span of time over which it was written. And sorry, prophecy, assuming there may even be such a thing, is not a "fact."

I don't know about the ten commandments, but maybe we should sky-write some of the verses that call for the death of homosexuals and adulterers. That's sure to make the case for religion.

You posted flame bait, and you got it. Congrats.

Answer 3

Okay, I'll give it to you straight.

-creation of matter
I don't see what this has to do with god, you'll have to expound

-fulfilled biblical prophecy
What prophesy are you talking about

-world history / current events panning out just like the bible said it would
Again, which events are you talking about?

-the conscience instilled in you
That can be explained just as easily with psychology

-unexplainable healings
Attributing the unexplained to God makes no sense to me.

-crystal clear pepsi
Didn't taste right

-personal testimonies
No offense, but this means about as much to me a personal testimonies for mermaids or unicorns

does God have to come to your door and try to sell you magazines?
Jesus selling me some woodwork would be fine.

Answer 4

Yeah I think that one where God comes to my door. The conscience one makes wonder sometimes. I never seen anyone or been healed my self by unexplainable healing but that would be interesting if it happened. I think I would need to see some proof before I could believe fully like witness or experience something my self. I just feel not sure. I don't feel much faith either.

Answer 5

But it's not about proof.

I can't prove to you that I exist! Maybe I'm just a figment of your imagination and you're dreaming in a sleep-state, and the whole world is fake...

Christianity, Christian values, and Christian living are not about proof and hard evidence but on faith.

Sure, we like it when things happen in the world that support our faith with evidence (like discovery of lost cities and kings mentioned in the Bible and historical records from the Roman Empire that mention the miraculous works of Jesus) but that isn't a requirement for our lifestyle. At least, it shouldn't be.

We all pretty much accept that the earth is a sphere in shape, yet the "Flat Earth Society" still exists. I've never been to space to check out the shape of the earth, but I believe it is round.

Many, many things in our world are taken on faith. Some of that is religion, some of it is science, some is economics, some is political, ... and that pattern continues on and on.

It's just not about proof.

Answer 6

Belief in God is not just a matter of proving the obvious. The recipient of the information has to have a heart that is receptive. If the heart is closed off, nothing can reach it, not even the most sensible of answers, or not even the 10 commandments written in the sky. In fact, people rejected Jesus in their very presence, performing miracles in front of their eyes.

Answer 7

ok here it is: in a really systematic natural theology the burdon of proof must, surely, lie on the proposition. It is up to the theist: first, to introduce and explain his chosen concept of God; and, second to produce reasons for believing that in the coresponding sense the word GOD does in fact have application---that is to say that, in his sense, there is a God.
Now lets look at what Aquinas himself says: "....Furthermore, what can accounted for by fewer principles is not the product of more. But it seems that everything that can be observed in the world can be accounted for by other principles, on the assumption of the non-existence of God. Thus natural effects are explained by natural causes, while contrived effects are referred to human reason and will. So there is no reason to postulate the existence of God"

crikey what a mouthfull!

Answer 8

I think an atheist certainly does have an obligation to explain his position. While I can't prove that the Eiffel Tower doesn't exist, if I claim the Eiffel Tower doesn't exist, I should be prepared to give some reasons for my skepticism.

Answer 9

if god really did deliver magazines, i would so beg him to take me home with him. but listen, it takes more than yelling at to get people to listen and believe. it is satan's fault we are like this, no one asked to be this way. god wont just walk up to a person in a bag lady suit and say, start believing in god or you will turn out like me. satan is always looking for things to accuse god of, like forcing people into loving him, but god waits for the permission of satan's victim to say god save me

Answer 10

In the first place why should believers be burdened with proofs? It does not seem logical when they already believe. Those who don't should be the ones to find it.