History lesson for the ignorant...............................................................................

Question

This might not be the right location to post but since I usually post in immigration, here goes:
The first permanent English colony was in Jamestown (in present day Virginia) in 1607. The Pilgrims didn't arrive until 1620 in present day Massachusetts.
I've notice A LOT of Hispanics get this wrong. It makes me suspect if they know anything about Hernando Cortez, the Aztecs, or their own Mexican history (for those of them who are Mexicans and not some other nationality). Anyway I digress.
Of course the first permanent European settlement in the present U.S. was St. Augustine, Florida.
Of course the first European to set foot in the present U.S. was Christopher Columbus (when he landed in Puerto Rico.) Well there are many historians who believe Lief Ericson made it as far south as the present U.S. circa 1000.
Of course the first European settlement in North America was started by Eric the Red circa 975.

To dinodino who responded below: Yes Eric founded his colony in Greenland, but Greenland is considered part of North America. It is also the world's largest Island, no not Australia which is a continent.
I believe circa 975 includes 968.

John: I know most most Hispanics/Brazilians/West Indians have native bloodlines, as do most Canadians and black and white Americans

Christyspapa: Columbus on his second voyage (out of four) to America in 1493 sailed by Puerto Rico and many other islands. He explored some of them but we are not exactly sure of which ones. Some historians believe he landed in Puerto Rico and others don't. And I don't mean he himself physically went ashore on each expedition but he sent a few of his men ashore. Of course he himself went ahore many times.

captmhunt: I am correct. St Augustine was the first PERMANENT white settlement in what is now the U.S. I didn't mention anything about military or nonmilitary. Of course St Augustine was a military settlement, the Spanish Crown established
St. Augustine to massacre the French Huguenots and end any French claims to Florida.

Answer 1

Good Job! We all know it's not about that, but I am very impressed with your work. I would like to point one other thing out - if you go back even further, mexico, usa, and canada would have to go back to asia - from 35,000 years ago. We all lose. I'd like to see whoever thinks they win that boobie prize rally together for that.

Would you sell your house and go back 160 years later, with no connection to it, and demand it be returned to you? Mexico was paid 25 million dollars, for two transactions, in the mid 1800's for that land.

They are like a nieghbor that comes to your house and steals your car keys and you cathc them and they demand it's their right for you to hand over your car - because they are Mexican.

Give me a break. The more you look into the issue the more truth will come out. The ignorant are the ones that won't even look at the issue and just put you down. You could hand then a white hankerchief and they'd swear you duped them it's black.

Answer 2

I'm not sure who the "Ignorant" are here, but you have your historical facts a bit wrong, my friend.

The first EUROPEAN settlement in North America, even before San Augustin, was San Gabriel in GEORGIA. It was only populated about a year before the Spanish moved on, but it was still the FIRST European settlement in the new world. It was the winter quarters for the DeSoto quest of exploration).

later came Saint Augustine (San Augustin) on the East Coast of Florida. (Which did NOT get named "Florida" because of all the flowers, as some of the 20-somethings who like to re-write history claim) but was named FLORIDA because it was discovered on Easter Sunday... the FEAST OF THE FLOWERS in Spanish.

The first PERMANENT settlement by non-military people who brought their wives, slaves and families with them, was San Gabriel located about 20 miles north of Santa Fe, NM. about 1598. (The location is marked by a marble column and can be visited with permission from the Santa Clara tribe as it's on private property).

By 1607, a few people from that settlement had begun to settle in the site that is now Santa Fe and, in 1610, Santa Fe was made the capital of northern mexico.

It just amazes me how Americans are so quick to point out the ENGLISH settlements on the East coast of the U.S. and totally ignore the Spanish settlements which were some years ahead of the Brits.

The Spanish history of the Southwest is MUCH more interesting than reading about what some dumb pilgrims who were thrown out of their own country for questionable religious practices were doing. It is also a much OLDER history than what Americans generally know about since their history is so East Coast-centric.

Of course, it's all a moot discussion, since it's been decided to eliminate ALL AMERICAN HISTORY prior to the Civil War in the next editions of the so-called HISTORY TEXTBOOKS Geezus... Americans don't know history now... their own or anyone elses... this can only make things worse.!

Answer 3

Hello.

This doesn't sound like a question at all. More like a lecture. Rather derogatory too, don't you think?

But since we are studying here ~ Native Americans, descendants of Mayans, Aztecs, etc have long lineages much further back than any European explorers or secondary settlers.

Many of the Mexicans/Hispanics you refer to have native bloodlines. Try rearranging your pseudo-euro history lessons and look into the early 8,000 to 15,000 B.C. artifact records of North America, South America, you name it. Sorry friend. We were beaten here long, long ago.

Answer 4

Did you ever wonder why there weren't MORE Mexican here in the USA before the big push we now are agrivated by?
Once they were run out of Texas, (Santa Anna et al) it was pretty much persona non gratis for a Mexican to be in the USA in that region. However, there were a handful of folks of mixed descent who provided services everyone was happy to have in the old colonial days of Texas. They were embrassed and welcomed in for the most part by most Americans. (There were, however, your odd bigots running around making it hard for the folks from down South of the border.)
The Mexicans have been nipping at our heels for decades, to get back up here and take over. Sad thing for us (me) right now is that, they are succeeding and the Feds don't seem to get it.
They take our tax dollars from us and turn around and use the money to fleece us. That's not the fault of the illegals. They are only a symptom/or cause of the symptom.

Answer 5

You forgot to mention Amerigo Vespucci for whom America was named after. Christopher Columbus as you truley mentioned did not discover America. In fact the true discovery of America or the North American Continent would be the nomadic people or Native Americans who lived there first.

Answer 6

Where did you ever learn that Christopher Columbus landed in Puerto Rico? That's a new one on me! No one really knows exactly where he landed, but most say it is most likely that he landed on a small island in the Bahamas called Lucayos.

The people aren't "Ignorant", some are just uninformed.

Answer 7

Thank you, thank you, thank you all! I learned a few things. despite this being possibly miscategorized it has been most refreshing to see some good old fashioned "Facts". Not just someones propaganda tossed around as fact to try and prop up a weak argument. Again I thank you all for the history.
And "Native Americans", people who are indigenous to North America, of which I am one, do NOT share any cultural or tribal ancestory with Central American peoples. Two separate cultures, each with their own histories.

Answer 8

Not a question. And you are giving Scandinavians a bad name with the thinly veiled racism in your comment here and elsewhere. Believe me, most people in this country regardless of race, ethnic background or whatever know very little about history or anything happened in this country more than a couple of years ago. And I doubt that you very many hispanics anyway.

Answer 9

Thank you for brushing me up on history.A lot of that information I had forgotten.Of course.My own family came over fromDevon shire,Oxford England in 1635 on the ship Abigail,and settled in Lynn,admitted as a Freeman in Plymouth in 1637 and helped settle Sandwich,Barnstable County,Mass.A little history I'am proud of.Of course

Answer 10

Puerto Rico is not part of the US. It is a self governing commonwealth associated with the US with a recognized self determination status.