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Jesus Christ and the Holly book Bible. But I want to understand them better. The answers to my questions come different, therefore I can't analyse all of different answers. For example someone has answerd me that God, Jesus Christ and Holly Spirit
are one. for me it's difficult to understand 1+1+1=1, may anyone explain it to me? Thank You For Your Assistance.

2006-06-18 15:25:21 · 31 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

31 answers

ONE GOD ONE ENTITY

( Do you trust God’s Word or mans’? )

Isa.43:10 Ye are My witnesses, saith the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He: before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me. Isa.43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no saviour. Isa.43:12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are My witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.

Isa.44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside Me there is no God.

Rev.1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Isa.44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside Me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isa.45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

Isa.45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside Me. Isa.45:22 Look unto Me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

Isa.46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like Me, Isa.46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure:

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matt.1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John.1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Eph.4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Heb.2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

I John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are One.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

I Cor.8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of Whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by Whom are all things, and we by Him.

2006-06-18 15:30:48 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

You are struggling with a question that has puzzled theologians for the past 2000 years.

It is clear from the scriptures that the Father is God and that the Son is God and that the Holy Spirit is God. Yet it is equally clear that there is only One God. The three persons of the Trinity are each equally and fully God and yet are three persons.

The best understanding I have is that the Father represents the Will of God, the Son represents the Agency or Action of God, and the Holy Spirit represents the Power of God.

Look at Genesis 1:1 this way, In the beginning the God the Son created the heavens and the earth according to the will of God the Father and through the power God of the Holy Spirit.

It becomes a matter of faith.

Also keep in mind that we are trying to describe God in terms of human language, something that really can't be done.

Hope that helps.

2006-06-18 15:38:17 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

This is a good question. Simply, it is impossible for us to fully understand this on this side of Heaven. What we know to be true is that the Bible is always right - it does not have error in it. So when the Bible tells us that Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and that the Father is God that is true. We also know that when the Bible says there is only one God, that is also true.

The Church has defined that there is one God who is three persons. A group of Church Fathers put it this way:

"In the unity of the Godhead there be three Persons of one substance, power, and eternity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. The Father is of none, neither begotten nor proceeding; the Son is eternally begotten of the Father; the Holy Ghost eternally proceeding from the Father and the Son."

If you're really interested in studying more about this, check out some fo the sources below!

2006-06-18 15:39:15 · answer #3 · answered by drs45 2 · 0 0

You have to start with the realization that, as the Creator of the Universe (and thus the author of the laws and mathematics that run the universe), God is outside them; He is quite beyond our comprehension. The best we can do is a rough, comprehensible approximation.

The Creeds state that the Father, Son and Spirit are one in essence, but in personality, separate. This is, of course, rather outside our experience--but not totally so. I am a single person. I am my parent's son. I am my wife's husband. I am our children's father. To others, I am other things--and to each of them, I am wholly and uniquely me, but I am a very different person. This is the closest thing most of us ever experience to the Tri-Unity of God.

A more concrete example comes to mind, although it, too, is totally inadequate and not exactly Scripturally precise. Many years ago, I interacted with a computer program called Eliza. Using an assortment of grammatical tricks and programming ingenuities, the program actually appeared to be a human, receiving and returning messages. As it turns out, the program comprehended nothing--it just appeared to do so. Now, consider an expanded version of that program, one that (assuming that programs could do so--not clearly so, but let us assume that it is possible) truly understood the inputs and could consider and make an intelligent answer. So far so good? Good.

Now, take a computer sufficiently powerful that it can run three copies of that program, copies that were slightly different, but still running on the same hardware. The computer would have three personas, but still be only a single machine.

The situation with God and the Three Persons is vaguely like that. What complicates matters is that God is infinite--and that makes it possible for a number of weird effects. As any math freak can show, with very little trouble, you can cut the infinite into any finite number of infinitely large parts, and the little splinters are actually exactly as large as the infinite from which they are drawn... Excuse me--my brain is frying on THAT thought!

Either way, the analogies offered are inexcusably inadequate and crude, but they are at least comparatively comprehensible. Looking at the math of the infinite is even more helpful, but I'm not sure where you're at on the maths...

2006-06-18 15:38:05 · answer #4 · answered by gandalf 4 · 0 0

Jehovah is the God and Creator of all. (Genesis 1:1, " In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth.") (Jehovah: Psalms 83:18 King James Authorized Version)

Jesus Christ is his son, God's firstborn. Jesus Christ (Colosians 1:15,16) "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him." (Jesus Christ is shown to be "the firstborn of all creation" as well as "the firstborn from the dead"-not merely most distinguished in relation to those created or those resurrected but the first one actually created and the first raised from the dead to endless life. (Col 1:15, 18; Re 1:5; 3:14)

The holy spirit is God's active force. For example, Jesus was to 'baptize with holy spirit and with fire', just as John had baptized with water. Persons can be baptized with water and with fire but can they be baptized with a bodily person? Can we imagine a person splitting himself up and distributing himself bit by bit to the one hundred and twenty disciples present at Pentecost and then filling each one of them? Can we think of Jesus receiving from his Father this holy spirit "person" and then shedding or pouring forth, like liquid fire, this person upon those disciples? Is that reasonable?-Matt. 3:11; Acts 2:1-4, 17; 11:16

**Therefore, God, Jesus Christ are two separate and not equal beings. The holy spirit is God's active force, not a person.

Ask any of Jehovah's Witnesses to show you from your Bible that the concept of a "Trinity" is not a Bible teaching.

2006-06-18 15:59:30 · answer #5 · answered by trenee10 3 · 0 0

This whole concept of the Trinity is a confusing one that we will probably never truly understand until we reach heaven. But that doesn't mean that we can't try. May I suggest that you read the article by Matt Perman called "Understanding the Trinity" available on-line at: http://www.biggergod.com/trinity.html

Although I won't go into it too much here, he argues that God is not three in the same way that He is one. You see, God is one in essence and three in a different way - Person. All three Persons are one God because they are all the same essence. Essence means the same thing as “being.” Thus, since God is only one essence, He is only one being—not three.

For more information please see the article above - it is a great read.

God Bless!

2006-06-18 15:44:43 · answer #6 · answered by rouge7487 1 · 0 0

Well I dunno how completely well to answer this but The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are co-Eternal.

In Genesis God said "let us go down and make man in our image."

If the Trinity was not real God would have said let me not let us.

The Father called his SOn God when the Father said to The Son: thy throne O God is forever.

When Jesus was baptized the Holy Spirit came down on Jesus in the form of a Dove and the Father said: This is my Son in you I am pleased.

However when ya get to Heaven will ya see 3 persons or one?

the answer is 1 and it is Jesus because Jesus has a Physical body whereas The Father and The Holy Spirit do not have a Physical body and are thus Spirits that cannot be seen by Human eyes not even in Heaven.

2006-06-18 15:36:15 · answer #7 · answered by MrCool1978 6 · 0 0

Ah. The Trinity. God in 3 persons. The closest illustration I have comes in the form of water. Water can exist in liquid, solid, or gas form. Water, ice, and steam are the three examples. All three are clearly distinct forms, but all are the same in essence: all exist as water, and yet all are distinct and separate. So it is with God. The Father is different than the Son, and the Son than the Spirit. Yet they are all one. It is something that we cannot truly comprehend, since no one we know can do it. It does take a measure of faith, but it does make sense.

2006-06-18 15:29:14 · answer #8 · answered by RandyGE 5 · 0 0

Hi, Stive, there are some good analogies here.

I think another way to approach it is this: If you believe that God is love, and that love is a description of the best way to relate to other beings, then it makes a great deal of sense to believe that God has to exist as more than one "being."

If God was just "one" person through and through, then he couldn't really love as an intrinsic part of his nature. But if God is more than one, then "love" is a necessary and unremovable part of the existence of these three beings. It also means that God is capable of "love" the way that we experience it in our own relationships here on earth.

So while one could say that the Trinity is just different facets of the same being, another way to look at it is to say that the Trinity is three separate individuals who are completely and totally loving (and "in love") with each other so that they seem to be one.

The Father, the Son, and the Spirit know each other so TOTALLY, so thoroughly, they are so emotionally intimate with each other and committed to each other's welfare and health that they might as well literally be the same person.

Have you ever seen an old married couple where they finish each other's sentences, where they have grown to look similar to each other, where they seem to complete each other, act in unison, totally care for the other person and take care of each other without even seeming to think about themselves in the process?

They act like one person. But they are still two distinct individuals, and are recognizable as such.

Now imagine a "perfect" God taking that example even further. The Trinity, to me, is like three beings who are so committed and loving of each other that they act in one accord, as one person. We can distinguish the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit from the Trinity as separate individuals; but they are also like one being because they act in such a loving way towards each other.

Does that help at all?

2006-06-18 15:52:33 · answer #9 · answered by Jennywocky 6 · 0 0

Hi and Thanks For Your Question :)

Well I don't know why Christians in the Church insist that Jesus Christ peace be upon him was a God :(
Jesus Christ peace be upon him never claimed divinity and he never said by his own words "Worship me !" or "I am God !"
in fact you will find many times he refers to him self as a very normal person

i) "My Father is greater than I."
[The Bible, John 14:28]

(ii) "My Father is greater than all."
[The Bible, John 10:29]

(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
[The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
[The Bible, Luke 11:20]

(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]

and this matches perfectly with the Islamic religion which says that Jesus peace be upon him is a prophet and a messenger and not a god or part of him

2006-06-18 15:34:54 · answer #10 · answered by abouterachess 4 · 0 0

It doesn't make any sense because it is fake and made up. Believe whatever you want as long as you take what everyone says and what you've been taught with a grain of salt, including me. But be sure to be open minded and remember that you may never find the belief that actually turns out to be true when all is said and done, but believe what makes you happy, despite what religious people say, you do not absolutely have to believe in what everyone else believes.

2006-06-18 15:32:48 · answer #11 · answered by surfer2966 4 · 0 0

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