$60 a week taxes in one job and $40 in the other, does he not contribute?

Question

I know a guy that is here ilegally, he has 2 jobs, he pays $60 in taxes a week in the first one and $40 in the second income tax. He also pays personal property tax and sales tax. He does not recieve government money. He went to the ER twice and both times paid his bill in full. So why are people saying that illegal immigrants do not contribute to the economy?

They are still hiring at his job, why dont you tell your friends to apply!

"He decided to avoid becoming a legal immigrant" you make it sound as if he would otherwise been accepted with open arms by our government. He did not have 10,000 us dollars in the bank back in his country, so he did not have a chance to be a legal immigrant. Please understand that it is NOT easy to become legal unless you are rich.

he has car insurance, just so you know and does not live 8 to a room.

luvamerica, I know enough from your previous answers and questions to know that you are.

How can you say that they put far less in, than they take out? That is not possible if you are talking about the immigrants that do pay taxes!

His SSN is one that has not yet been issued to a person.

The fact is, that the law does not allow enough legal immigrants into the country. If it did, and didnt only allow the rich, then we wouldnt have this problem.

Actually Ann E it IS the norm, the norm for illegal immigrants in Missouri.

Answer 1

the reasons why some people are saying that they do not contribute are several :

- ignorance : people do not know all the facts and are often lied about the real facts which are that they not only pay like most citizens do but they do no get their taxes back ever .
.....additional info : people who do not pass the line of poverty do not have to declare what they earn to the IRS like perfect American suggested , just another example of ignorance .
..... most people who come illegally do not do it because they think they are better but because they make around a 10 percent of what they would do in the USA ( this will continue until this gap is as big as it is today and it will require both the USA and Mexico's cooperation to fix it ) and because they do not mind doing the jobs which they work on and not they jobs which they say they could do and do not do .

- racism : do i need to add more ?

- not wanting to listen : some people just do not want to know the real facts and many have choose to stand up in their arguments not matter how wrong they are .

Answer 2

We can't know that each and every one individually doesn't contribute, since they would be deported for breaking our laws if they identified themselves.

However, the taxes paid by some illegal aliens has been taken into account in the multiple economic analyses of immigrant impact on our economy. Even when poor immigrants pay all applicable taxes they put far less into the system than they take out. That is why all developed countries that subsidize education and other services limit how many poor immigrants can come to the country. That is why the line is long to get in. Those who come in illegally because they think they have a right to be subsidized before the legal paths would let them in are stealing.

Probably not every single illegal takes out more than they put in, however, as a group they absolutely do. It has long been documented, as has the disproportionate crime levels within the illegal alien population.

Answer 3

I don't say that "some" do not contribute. The vast majority may not contribute? It is unknown what the truth is. Consequently we can't monitor what is true and or fair, or best for our nation. If they were legal and we could/would know the truth. One more arguement against being illegal. It clouds the truth of the matter and makes it impossible or difficult to make sure Americans are treated justly and with the respect they are due as birthright citizens. This is yet another reason that illegals can't be allowed here as illegals.
I know for a fact MANY illegals do not pay their emergency med. bills (I'm a nurse). In fact, they do not pay for much of what they use or consume if they can get away with it.
Consider that when it comes to "contribution" that if the USA takes two steps forward and 3 steps back when considering the input of the illegals, the situation is not going in a positive, appropriate direction. Illegality is NOT a benefit/moneymaker for the vast majority of Americans and cannot be allowed to continue.

Answer 4

That doesn't cover much on the whole. If that were true. The fact is there is a drain on the system by Illegals. The fact is it hurts others. The fact is we do not have enough resources. The facts are it is not the very poor coming. The facts are both sides are getting hurt. The facts are laws are for protection. The facts are some are breaking them.

I noticed you didn't go back to "No room at the Inn"--others replied to you--others saw the news. You lack to face facts is troublesome. If more would face it and work from there we would have more solutions. Maybe you mean well but when it comes to facts you bury your head. And will not acknowledge them. Instead you rebuke knowledge.

The facts are they need to be deported and follow laws. The facts are drugs and weapons are coming in at an amazing rate -from there. The facts are we can stop some of this.

Answer 5

One example does not negate the fact that the majority of people living in border communities in TX, NM, AZ, and CA live below the poverty line.

And, the reason they do so is because employers can exploit workers due to their legal status and because there are far more workers than available jobs.

Wages are the result of supply & demand and the reason construction workers no longer receive decent wages is because illegal immigrants do the same job for half the price.

And, they can do so because they live in animal like conditions (8 to a one bedroom apartment, no car insurance, registration, driver's licenses, etc.) and do not have the same expenses as citizens.

Mexico and other nations who refuse to improve their own economies should be billed a minimum of one million dollars for every illegal immigrant apprehended.

Illegal immigrants are a cancer that is destroying America's economy.

Answer 6

Again.


PAYING TAXES DOES NOT MAKE YOU ABOVE THE LAW.

IF AN AMERICAN HAD THOSE JOBS, WOULDN'T HE BE ABLE TO FEED HIS FAMILY? WOULD SOMEONE OVER IN THE NEXT DEPRESSED COUNTY WANT THOSE JOBS?

If you do the math, that's about 30k a year at least, times 20 million, you do the math on how legal Americans can't get work. You don't go by unemployment, that's only the percent of people recieving benefits.

Ok, if you think they are contributing more than Americans that are out of work and want those jobs, then they have my permission to stop contributing and obey our laws first.

Sure, or they can use the want ads and get people that can legally work! DUH!!

Answer 7

Fact: Whoever is employing your ILLEGAL friend in job one is breaking the law.
Fact: Whoever is employing your ILLEGAL friend in job two is breaking the law.
Fact: If you know your friend is ILLEGAL, you are part of the problem if you don't report him.

If your friend is paying taxes, where and how did he get a SSAN to report his income.

Does your friend file taxes with the IRS each year, like a citizen is required to?

Your friend, by being here ILLEGALLY, is a criminal. He decided to avoid becoming a legal immigrant, by engaging in criminal activity. He belongs in jail while awaiting deportation. It is your duty as a law abiding citizen to report him to INS.

Answer 8

I think there's a huge misunderstanding on this issue. What's more is that from my understanding, it's up to the employer to take the taxes out of his paycheck before paying him.

The people in question are probably those who are not working, thus, not providing any taxes.

That said the people who are paying taxes are not getting the full benefits of those taxes - hence, the demonstrations, I believe.

Answer 9

I seriously doubt your story. He needs a valid social security number. If he is here illegally, that means he is using someone else's and causing them problems on their W2 form. They are probably having to explain why they are not claiming that income to the IRS. That is a crime your illegal friend is committing. Illegal immigrants who are in America are felons. So, go ahead and support a criminal and I will support the victims of the crime of identity theft committed by them.

Answer 10

taxes dont make u a citizen ... and im all for making illegal immigrants citizens, but u gotta realize that ur friend is one outstanding example ... unfortunately, the majority cant afford to pay their ER bills and get paid under the table (without paying taxes) which only gives amo to the arrogant anti-immigration assholes to attack them. im on the other side of that, make them legal and make them pay just as much as we do .. and prosecute the REAL AMERICAN criminals!