The Preamble to the Fundamental Rights Charter of the European Union, adopted in 2002, sidesteps monotheism: "Conscious of its spiritual and moral heritage, the Union is founded on the universal values of human dignity, freedom, equality and solidarity".
I think this is very appropriate - whilst it acknowledges a 'spiritual' heritage - and that would, as Heron suggests, cover non-Judeo-Christian religions - it also recognises the basic principles that should be practiced by everyone, irregardless of belief.
2006-06-18 08:27:37
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answered by Macaroni 4
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No I don't.
This is not a prayer, and the act of reciting the pledge is not praying. A person who claims to be a Christian will tell you they believe in God. The President swears to God when he is inaugurated. A police office does the same. Every time I re-enlisted in the Air Force I was sworn in. When I sat on a jury I was sworn in. And every witness is sworn in. The Congress of the US opens session with a prayer and the US Supreme Court does likewise. If the very use of the word God constitutes prayer, then every example sited constitutes public prayer, and, as an atheist, every time I cuss I am praying. That is not the case.
A second point is most people in this country claim some Deity. That Deity is normally god, yes with a lower case "g". The god in the pledge is generic. It is doing nothing more than acknowledging a supreme being. The pledge says "under God", not "under Jehovah", not "under Allah", not "under Buddha" or any other Deity.
Even atheists believe in something, usually themselves.
If you stand firm that the majority must cave in to the minority in every case, then what if one person sues because they don't believe in using doctors. They further claim that the very existence of hospitals offends them. Should we close all the hospitals? I chose the most ridiculous example I could thing of to illustrate the absurd by being more absurd.
We elect the most powerful man in the free world by a majority vote, so with this pledge thing why do we have to offend the majority in order to appease a minority. Especially when it should offend virtually no one.
While we are at it, why don't you send me all your money, that "in God We Trust" thing is endorsing a religion and you surely don't want any thing like that around you. And since the stars are in "heaven", a religious concept, we need to change the American Flag. I'm sorry, but I am only trying to bring this foolishness into focus. And from where I sit, this is FOOLISHNESS.
2006-06-18 06:52:16
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answered by gimpalomg 7
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Our Lord also told you and I that we must love the Lord God with all our heart, mind, body, and strength.
Removing our allegiance to our country which is founded on Christian virtue by the grace of God would be diminshing the importance of God in that very foundation and sustanance of our country.
Since you seek a certain level of respect in your arguments, I want to let you know that you cannot prove a point by taking text out of a source with a certain pretext because that is the direct definition of a context. And if you are to be respected then you mustn't continue presenting context apart from how Christianity interprets the passage. It is forcing our faith into the box that you've created with the sole purpose of knocking it down. We set up the pins, Jim, and you can try to knock them down. You can't do both because then you are only playing with yourself.
My response is not meant as context, but as a demonstration that you know nothing of the Bible as it is complete.
I'm beginning to suspect you just surf the net for proofs then put them in your own words on Yahoo Answers.
What a hideous and cowardly way to provoke discussion. Give the due citation to those who deserve it.
As if you couldn't tell, I am quickly losing respect for you. Which is sad since this board is inundated with grammatically and logically poor assertions and it should be easy to maintain respect comparatively.
Though you may know how to type and construct a sentence, I am doubtful that you can think for yourself.
Your avatar actually is becoming quite a definitive icon of your logic. Although it seems to suggest men came from apes, I am suspecting the reverse; your logic may be regressing to the degree of our common ancestor.
Pick it up, Jim. You may make the high schoolers on the board question things with your poor half-logic, but those who have more strength and experience in defense of their faith find your arguments, at times, elementary.
Then again, are you a high schooler yourself? I wouldn't be surprised. Have a fun summer vacation.
2006-06-18 06:17:51
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answered by velvet 3
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Don't twist the meaning of this text. All that it means is, when you pray, don't be a hypocrite and pray openly to get a reward. All that it means is, pray sincerely.
And NO, I don't think God should be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance. Society has already removed him from our work, our schools and now the gov't too? Just look at the morality of today. It is CHAOTIC. We need GOD!
2006-06-18 06:01:03
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answered by mx3baby 6
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Although I personally am not a religious one, I don't find any offense with the mention of God being in the Pledge of Allegiance - I feel that the whole movement to remove it is just another example of the ACLU trying to appease everybody and making the modern push for social rights look foolish
2006-06-18 06:07:58
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answered by Brian 3
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its funny, they want to remove the word God from the Pledge of Allegiance but have no problem with people placing there right hand on the bible and say " i swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help me god " in Court. The government is full of a bunch of hypocrite's. But no, the Pledge of Allegiance should not be changed.
2006-06-18 06:21:11
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answered by Heather W 3
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Actually, I do agree with you, but not for the reasons you gave. Most of the time, I do pray in private, but there are some occasions that do call for public prayer, and then, I am not shy.
No, I don't think God belongs in the pledge of allegiance, because His Name should never be associated with a lie.
You know all those disgusting bits of green paper lying about that say "In God We Trust" on them? How offensive!! Get rid of them, at once!! Send them all to me, I'll take good care of them for you. (since I am not offended by seeing or hearing God's name, this ought to be a good compromise. Please get in touch with me right away, and I'll send you more details!)
:)
2006-06-18 06:05:38
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, I agree, even though I am a strong devotee of God.
We as a country should not place any religious view above another. By placing God in the Pledge of Allegiance, we are giving favor to Theistic religions. This leaves out Buddhists, Atheists, and others.
Although I love and believe in God, I also believe in tolerance of all religions (as long as they are not teaching killing or something).
2006-06-18 06:02:48
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answered by Heron By The Sea 7
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Yes, if the God ye are pledging allegiance to is Law.
No, if the God you're pledging allegiance to is Grace.
Pledging of allegiance to His Grace,
then later found whoring with the Law,
is biblically called spiritual "adult-ery".
Example:
GWB: America is a nation under law.
Bible: "ye are not under law, but under grace"
Example:
GWB: there will be sacrifice
Bible: "I will have mercy, and not sacrifice"
Example:
GWB: I'll make rule of law global in next 4 yrs
Bible: "whether prophecies, they shall fail"
The "grace" of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
2006-06-18 06:09:39
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answered by Anonymous
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We are not a secular government by nature, we only do it for namesake.
Our country's founders believed in God. The majority of Americans believe in God. We are representing Democracy when we use God because that is the will of the people.
When this country has no religious people then you can argue to take God away. Until then its remains a part of our history and a part of our present.
2006-06-18 06:00:27
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answered by aliasasim 5
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