Any one heard of purebred american staffys coming out with a brown nose? Does this mean hes a rednose pittbull

Question

Our purebred Amstaff had a litter of 10, all came out with black noses except for one that is tan. The others were blues and blacks. I have been assured both the mother, father and grandparents are purebred and seen some papers, but it has been questioned now that this tan pup looks similar to a rednose pitt bull. (I dont see it, but others have said it) I am confused about the whole thing and want to be 100% sure there is no pittbull in what I think are pure amstaffs. Any advice???

Answer 1

When American Pit Bull Terrier enthusiasts approached the AKC (American Kennel Club) to begin registering APBTs, the English Bull Terrier (like Spuds McKenzie) people lobbied against it., so did the English Bulldog people. Apparently, they thought the name, American Pit Bull Terrier, was too similar to the name of their breed. The AKC reached a compromise in which they registered APBTs under the name American Staffordshire Terrier. At some point later, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier also came about, and is also the same breed. In fact, many dogs were registered both with the ADBA and UKC as APBTs and with the AKC as AmStaffs. I know some people who have dual-registered dogs to this day. The AKC didn't begin vigorously protesting that they are the same breed until the 60's and 70's, when pit bulls were bestowed with a reputation for attacking people. Pit bulls have existed as a specific, unique breed for well over 500 years. the bad rap came along for APBTs for the same reason as Dobermans, Rottweilers, and German Shepherds also had been accused of "turning" on their owners. That reason is simply the sudden popularity of the breed among people who didn't really understand the unique requirements of keeping them.

The two strains have been, for the most part, kept seperate for such a very long time that many people reasonably consider them different breeds.

The name APBT was only coined for the purpose of registering pit bulls. Prior to the fad of registering them, the breed was known as bulldogs, pit dogs, and other, similar, generic names. Most of the fanciers in the old days never registered their dogs, and didn't care about ever doing so.

The red nose in APBTs and AmStaffs is simply a color variation that can exist in any individual of either breed. The red nose is recessive. Conformation standards within the ADBA and AKC permit a dog with a red nose to be shown. The AKC standards do not permit it. Therefore, red noses are much less common in AmStaffs, because any AmStaff that has a red nose is not likely to be bred. But, since the red nose is recessive, two black nosed dogs can have the gene that causes red noses. If a pup receives the recessive genes from each parent, it will have the red nose. The gene, although perhaps rare, is still present in some AmStaffs. Especially those whom are not bred specifically as show dogs by professional breeders.

There is a strain of APBT known as the Old Family Red Nose. The strain originated in dogs that were imported to the US from Ireland during the potatoe famine. These dogs were renowned for their gameness (IOW, they wouldn't quit in a fight, even if they were losing), which was considered a highly desirable trait. The strain was kept very tight, with few outcrosses to other strains. Many of the best dogs within this strain happened to have red noses, but it wasn't just the red noses the breeders were looking for at this time, long ago.

However, red noses are fairly common among all strains of APBT, so just because the dog is red nosed doesn't mean that it is an Old Family Red Nose.

Similarly, the red nose doesn't mean that your dog isn't an AmStaff. Although all AmStaffs came from stock that was pit bulls (bulldogs, APBTs, whatever), the last thirty generations of dogs in your dog's pedigree could very well have been registered AmStaff, which could safely make them considered NOT to be APBTs.

Also, the noses of young pups sometimes don't turn dark for a while longer than their siblings. Given a few more weeks, your red nosed pup might get his black nose. Either way, I wouldn't be too concerned.

If you or anybody else has further questions, feel free to send me a message.

Answer 2

Blue American Staffy

Answer 3

Is there a possibility that another dog could have gotten to the female? If a female mates with more than one male then there can be ones from different fathers. If you are unsure I would have them DNA tested. Otherwise the breed standard says that a off color nose is a disqualification. It can take time for them to get the color on their nose as well so depending on how old the pups are you may wait a while to see. Are you planning on showing?

Answer 4

Red Staffy

Answer 5

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Answer 6

I do not believe that this means he's a rednose pit. Noses can come in various shades. I have a red nose pit and his nose is a few shades lighter then my blue brindle pit bull. When i got my blue pit, she was the only pit in the litter that was blue. All the others were regular brindles. Love your dog for who he is. Coloring is just coloring!

Answer 7

ask your vet to take a blood sample and send it to AKA, I think for a fee they will test it for you....to rest your fees...remember, where money is involved, people may fib a bit to get the results they want...good luck

Answer 8

Take the pup to your vet; hopefully they can help you with this one.