If evolution is true, how can it contradict the laws of thermodynamics?

Question

The first law of thermodynamics states that nothing can be created or destroyed. Then how could something be created out of nothing (big bag theory) instead of something being created out of something (God)?

The second law of thermodynamics states that disorder will always increase. So how could more order come from less order how evolution tries to prove?

Answer 1

You've got both laws wrong.

1. First law states that ENERGY can be neither created nor destroyed - it can only change form. Your battery, for example, stores energy that gets transformed into useful functions like your digital camera motor.

2. The Second Law states that the TOTAL ENTROPY of the universe will always increase - that is, that throughout the entirety of the universe, disorder will always increase.

That says NOTHING about local changes in entropy. In fact, it is very easy to demonstrate in the laboratory that local DECREASES in entropy (i.e., INCREASED ORDER) are in fact very, very common. Meaning, for example, that simple chemicals tend to interact to create more complex chemicals (Hydrogen and Oxygen combining to form water, for example, is a higher order molecule than hydrogen or oxygen alone).

And it is this fact that the "Creationism" crowd attempt to gloss over, and in fact, many "Intelligent Design" websites tell you NOT to use this argument against evolution: it's a very, very bad one.

Answer 2

The Big Bang theory has nothing to do with the theories of evolution (they are a culmination of several) so you're trying to compare apples and toasters.

Anyway, the big bang theory does not state or imply that the universe came from "nothing". It states that the material needed to create the universe was concentrated in ultra-dense matter that at one point "exploded" resulting in our universe. In actuality, the "theory" of intelligent design does imply that the universe arose out of nothing and would very much violate the 1st law.

The second law states the entropy (disorder) of an isolated or closed system will increase with time. The system in question must be closed for the theory to apply. A common example I've read illustrates how air pressure will quickly equalize if you were to pop a balloon in an air tight vessel and would remain equal barring any outside influence. At that point, the degree of entropy in the closed system has reached it's final stage and will go no further.

Living creatures are not isolated or closed systems. They will constantly take in energy from outside of themselves (air, food, water, sunlight as energy). The second law does not nix evolution as our means of being because it doesn't apply to a system that is not closed.

Hope this helps :)

Answer 3

OMG here we go again
1) The big bang involved physics that we don't understand well yet. We don't know why inflation happened, we don't know how matter acts when so dense (like in a black hole) That just means we have mroe to learn, not that it's false.

2) Every time a snowflake is created or an icicle, or a crystal of any kind, order comes from chaos. That only applies to a CLOSED system with no new energy. The earth is constantly receiving energy from the sun which allows larger scale "opposition" to entropy.

Answer 4

Read your science. The Second Law of TD states that entropy will increase in a CLOSED system WITHOUT the addition of energy. The earth is NOT a CLOSED system. It is open to the universe and RECEIVES billions of ergs of energy every single day in the form of sunshine. So the EARTH CANNOT be a system that is subject to the Second Law of TD because it does not meet the basic requirements. Why don't you Creationists actually READ science textbooks instead of parroting your Sunday School teachers (who are usually used car salesmen or plumbers).

Answer 5

the tremendous bang itself is previous any physics that all of us understand, first regulation of thermodynamics blanketed. i hit upon argument from incredulity singularly flawed with reference to the starting place of the universe, as any advent, no matter if by ability of God, Flying Spaghetti Monster, or organic causes is both no longer conceivable to get one's head round. As is, for that commemorate, the alternative hypothesis that the universe has continuously existed. As for the 2d regulation of thermodynamics and evolution, this can be a gross and probable planned false impression of the 2d regulation of thermodynamics. If the 2d regulation required that each thing in any respect cases is transforming into better disordered, replica itself will be no longer conceivable, and the international would merely be complete of death and rot.

Answer 6

The universe has always existed, the "big bang" was an event, it created nothing.

A baby is conclusive proof of evolution.

Rocks, animals, vegetation and liquids all evolve into another life form every time a baby is born.

Babies do not originate from nothing, they evolve from other life forms.

Answer 7

They dismiss the idea that in order for our laws to work, Someone or Something had to initiated those laws from the outside.

They believe that the Creator had to have a creator. But I believe He is independent of the laws of our universe. He set them in motion.

Answer 8

Who's law is this?
While scientists and engineers are constantly trying to figure it out, I would recommend not refering to them to support creation.
They'll continue to adjust the theories as time goes by.

Answer 9

because the big bang wasnt from "nothing"

it was from expanding matter.

disorder. that continues to increase

Answer 10

theyre waiting around for an answer to that one.