Joesphus actually never witnessed anything jesus did.
anyway, religion is faith based. that does not make it righjt or wrong. you simply cannot prove it. at the same time you cannot disprove it either. let's say for argument there is a god/ goddess or whatever your preferred term. that entity is not the slightest bit obliged to prove a damn thing. by the same token, your are not obligated to believe , let alone worship. faith is a choice. arguing faith is pointless. i never understood why non-believers would try to convince believers otherwise. one can argue small matters of fact and history, but the supernatural element is imply impossible either way to prove.
2006-06-17 10:06:00
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answered by Anonymous
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There really isn't any. The most evidence that exists is that there was probably a guy named Jesus that lived back then. The only evidence that kinda proves the resurrection is an empty tomb which some think was Jesus's tomb (all scholars aren't in agreement). But an empty tomb could mean a number of things other than a resurrection and it could be the wrong tomb. Evidence against his divinity is the surprising similarities between Jesus of the Bible and previous myths. See link for additional information and some further reading.
2006-06-17 19:38:32
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answered by laetusatheos 6
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* Jehosephas says "he was the Christ".
But that phrase is generally seen as being an interpolation added by Christians, well after Jehosephas wrote.
* The Talmud contains a couple of paragraphs, debating whether he was the messiah, or a heretic. Whilst the ultimate decision was that he was a heretic, their rational for doing so is "interesting".
* If you delve into Hindu texts, there are a couple that refer to him as being "a Great Saint". These probably were late additions, since Hindusim has a tradition of adding Holy people, regardless of their beliefs, to their list of "Great Saints".
* One interesting datapoint is that when the Gospels are read by the clergy of religions other than Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and their offshoots, Jesus universaly meets the criteria required for recognition as a "Holy Person", [The next question the clergy asks is "Why don't Christians follow the practices of this Holy Person?"] That does not hold true for the founder, or any prophet of any other religion.
* The single event in the New Testament, that would demostrate his divinity, does not have any contemporaneous corrobarating evidence. Indeed, the only non-Biblical evidence we have from it, is from a quote by Africanus, in 221 AD, was refuting Phlagus, who wrote in 131 AD, who was explaining Thalus, who wrote in 52 AD.
_If_ we had Thalus' original work, and _if_ the passage quoted by Africanus was in the original, then we could simply add Q.E.D. to the end of that manuscript, having objectively proved the divinity of Christ.
2006-06-17 18:02:44
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answered by jblake80856 3
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Josephus, a historical writer that lived during the times of Jesus, told of His miracles and was an eye witness of them as well as His resurrection from the grave and ascension into Heaven. Also you can look at the encyclopedia to find things that was done and evidence of His divinity. Many were there and saw and heard God speak the words, "this is My beloved Son." There are several shreds with not one from the bible.
2006-06-17 16:58:48
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answered by ramall1to 5
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That's just it, there are'nt infallible sources of his divinity.
Religion is the original politics to give people of power more power, and to keep the minions in thier place. Look at it this way. The western world is busy professing faith and following to a man who lived in the middle east, was chastised as Kind of the Jews by the very people who ended up fathering the Roman Catholic Church..If that's not Irony, I do not know what is.
2006-06-17 16:58:39
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answered by m34tba11 5
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There are other writings and artifacts that do prove his divinity and that he was here. Granted faith goes a long way when your talking about any religion. That's where you personally decide weather there is a heaven or hell, or if you just die and your done. The great thing here in the U.S. is that you live in a free country where you can chose your own religion or none at all. Good question. Your welcome and have a good life.
2006-06-17 17:02:45
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answered by bankster 3
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1. Did Jesus die on the cross?
2. Was He buried in a tomb?
3. Was He resurrected?
The historical record all answer "yes" to these questions.
This may still not be sufficient evidence, though. After all, Lazarus died, was buried in a tomb for four days, and he was resurrected. But since we are not using the Bible, then the story of Lazarus does not count.
A person was crucified (he died), was buried for three days, and was later seen alive. This is EVIDENCE , not conclusive PROOF.
2006-06-17 17:10:50
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answered by flandargo 5
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Brother, you'll get your proof, but by then it will be too late. :(
When Jesus returns for the final battle between good and evil, you'll discover that all of your baiting and challenging his divinity wasn't such a good idea after all.
The only PROOF that I can offer you today, is that I (and probably many others) will be sincerely praying that your participation in these religious discussions will lead you to the truth and save your soul before that happens. Because GOD desires that none should be lost.
2006-06-17 17:41:48
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answered by mother_jazz 2
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Excluding your computer as a source, please provide one shred of evidence you exist.
If you can't, does it mean you don't?
No. That's just foolish.
You cannot "prove" anything to someone who is unwilling to know it.
It's not my job to prove Christ or His divinity to you. I can answer your questions, I can live an example, but you are responsible for you. If you want to know, "Ask...Seek....Knock..." God will make sure you find Him, if that's what you want. That's His job - and yours.
As long as you make your search someone else's responsibility, you don't actually have to consider anything for yourself. That's your choice, but every choice has consequences.
2006-06-17 17:16:23
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answered by Contemplative Chanteuse IDK TIRH 7
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If you exclude the bible, there is no proof he existed, much less did anything.
Josephus' references to Jesus have been discredited. They were added by some unknown person at a later date.
I wonder why anyone would have to forge Jesus stories if he actually existed?
2006-06-17 16:59:29
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answered by Left the building 7
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