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In both Greek and Hebrew the masculine plural can include women, or a woman. For example: if there is only one man and a hundred women, "they" or "their" would be masculine; or if there is one man and one woman "they" or "their" would be masculine.

Since Moses and Elijah appeared with Christ on the Mount of Transfiguration in glorified bodies (which cannot be killed),
these two prophets mentioned in Revelation 11:3-13 must be two individuals born, and alive, on the earth in "the End of the days," which are now.

2006-06-17 04:29:24 · 12 answers · asked by freddy d 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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what?!?!? teehee

2006-06-30 01:08:52 · answer #1 · answered by Vprincess 5 · 0 0

They are not alive yet. God will be raising two great men whose ministries were not finished because they never saw death. Moses died on Mount Nebo, so I'm thinking He's going to bring back Enoch and Elijah, the two who were "translated" as the Scripture calls it. The Tribulation period is what Revelation is referencing, not the End of Days. As long as the Church is still on Earth, Enoch and Elijah's ministries will not be necessary. Once the Rapture occurs and Tribulation begins with the advent and rise to power of the Antichrist, about halfway through, the two witnesses will speak in Jerusalem about the "abomination of desolation" in which the Antichrist will make his claim to godship and try to take a seat in the Third Temple which he will erect near the Dome of the Rock in an effort to bring peace to the Middle East and bring Muslim and Jew together (under false pretenses of course). The two witnesses will then expose the Antichrist for who he is and several factions of people will recant their allegiance bringing around Armageddon's final battles before God steps onto the scene again and cleans up our mess with the Millennial Kingdom and ultimately, the Great White Throne Judgment which begins eternity.

2006-06-29 09:44:08 · answer #2 · answered by bigvol662004 6 · 0 0

Sorry Don S, can't except that. How are two witnesses given control to have fire come from their mouth and shut up the heavens?
Some theoligians believe it to be Elijah and Enoch. They were the only two who walked on the earth who did not encounter physical death. Verse 8 says about their dead bodies will be shown in the streets but 3 1/2 days the spirit of God will return to their bodies. Only physical bodies would be able to do all this.
Also, it says in Luke that Moses and Elijah came in glory, not glorified bodies. You can walk in His glory on earth.
The question comes forth, did Enoch and Elijah get trasformed bodies? The Bible doesn't say, since they have not experienced death. Those who have died get "new" bodies.

2006-06-17 04:49:14 · answer #3 · answered by n9wff 6 · 0 0

The following is my opinion on the book of revelation. i hope others with an interest in religion will enjoy this, then comment, so we can get some interesting discussion going.
Revelation is the center piece of modern Judeo-Christian apocalypse mythology. It was originally written by John (not the baptist) as a letter to other christians of his time. John wrote this letter while imprisoned by the romans (for being a christian) on the island of patmos.

In such situations people have a tendency to either go insane from isolation or tap into their subconscious for company. and im not just saying that to be funny. if any person, even a mentally healthy person, is deprived of sentient stimulus, then they will hallucinate (both auditory and visual) simply because the brain becomes bored and seeks entertainment.

A lot of the symbols in the book of revelation are not original. In fact, some say that those symbols were used deliberately by John to convey a hidden message to the christians he was writing to, that the romans wouldn't understand. Most likely a message to reassure his fellow christians, as any good leader would do.
John was counting on people from his time to understand just what his letter meant. now in our modern age it is regarded as a great mystery from god because it is rare that this generation of christians would think in terms of those arcane symbols. symbols like dragons in the sky and the signifigance of numbers. so modern theologians try to associate the symbols in johns letter with things like armies and war machines because we, like every generation, believe that the end is near.

christians were facing terrible oppression and persecution during those early times in the religion's history. i think anyone who would be killed for their beliefs would want an escape from the world that hated them. believing that the world which is persecuting you for your beliefs would be destroyed by the god that you believed in, would indeed be a much needed emotional release. the idea of a holy apocalypse gave early christians hope and confidence that they were not dying without cause.

today christians often interpret the book of revelations as describing a horrible opression that christians will have to face that weren't saved before the tribulation. but i believe it is important to note how much oppression christians were facing when the book was written. it is more likely that the angel of the lord that revealed all these things to John was actually a hallucination that John created to calm his own doubts.
given the circumstances that john was enduring as one of the leaders of a religion that was costing people their lives, and as a prisoner, mental collapse should not be ruled out as a possibility.
i will say here again, believing that the world which hates you for your beliefs would be destroyed by the god you believe in, would be a quenching emotional release.

i feel that theologians can give so much creedence to the book of revelation because it was written by a man who was familiar with the jewish mythology which had been building up over the past 4000 years. the jewish religion is rich with fundamental archetypes that are synonymous with countless other religions. most religions are essentially telling the same story, but there are few (i would say) as well developed as the old testament and new testament. with that rich resevoir of information influencing John (the old testament), his subconscious would have a lot to draw from to create hallucinations and dreams. the well developed old testament also would give john a clear depiction of human nature. clear enough to write a poetic prose about his idea of how man's world would end, which could continue to mystify theologians for generations to come.
the symbols of revelation were nothing new when john wrote them. that's why i'd say this book wasn't inspired by the divine as much as it was by previous religious concepts, symbols, and philosophies.

2006-06-17 04:34:10 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

nicely, I purely opt to stay lengthy adequate to make sure my son turn 19. How ever if the earth ends presently after that i'd like to attend a three hundred and sixty 5 days or 2 more desirable to make sure it. I received't wait to any extent further. there'll be Turkey and a bullet calling me domicile

2016-10-31 01:06:47 · answer #5 · answered by jenniffer 4 · 0 0

People are always saying were in "the end of days" and they've always been wrong. Revelations is fiction.

2006-06-27 09:10:29 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The two witnesses are the OT and NT.

This I believe; http://homelessheart.com/testimony.htm

2006-06-17 04:32:07 · answer #7 · answered by Don S 4 · 0 0

they are men and yes they are alive and walking the earth

2006-06-17 04:33:43 · answer #8 · answered by ♂ Randy W. ♂ 6 · 0 0

Try not to confuse mythology with the real world ok?
The bible is mythology. Nothing more.
God is imaginary, nothing more...

2006-06-17 04:34:07 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Yes they are, and one "IS" a woman. Her name is Michael Jackson. ;-)

2006-06-17 04:42:28 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

we are not even close to the end of days.

2006-06-17 04:41:07 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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