To all those right-wingers who suggest that welfare does things to people and that they don't bother to get out of poverty, I would like to inform you that yes, it does happen, but please don't generalize and suggest that a great majority of them do so. I have a college degree and my family had to use welfare for a short time, because I was unable to find a job. It helped us get by and be able to put some food on the table. However, I was in a better position, in the fact that I actually do have a degree. Many people on welfare don't and can't get anything more than a $8 an hour job. If you think you can support 2 children on $8 an hour, I suggest you go try it. I've known several people that have to work 2-3 jobs just in order to pay their bills. It doesn't mean they're not "trying" to get out of poverty. It's that they can't. It's a vicious cycle. To suggest that they're not "trying" to get out of poverty is extremely selfish and insensitive. Sure, there are people that take advantage of the system, and the government should do a better job of punishing those that do. But, don't blast the entire system just because of a few bad apples. Throw out the bad apples.
2006-06-16 20:00:14
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answered by swede700 2
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I am a liberal, first thing is there is no such thing as free health care, it has to be paid for some way usually by a consumption tax. However everyone should have a right to three things in this country as rich as it is and that is food, shelter and health care. Welfare has been patched and people can no longer stay on it for generations, it is called welfare to work in Michigan, two years and you are on your own, four years lifetime. The health care system is fired by the insurance company's and it is legalized organized crime. Until we do away with the insurance company's role in health care it will continue to spiral out of control. This is in violation of the right wings creed of corruption so it is an up hill battle. I wonder how many realize that the cost of this war for no good reason would pay almost entirely for every welfare program going. It is a sin to let people in our own country go hungry and to feed the people in other places. To build hospitals and schools in Iraq and we do without for lack of resources.
2006-06-17 00:05:30
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answered by Anonymous
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Why do liberals make such sweeping statements without any facts to back them up. I hate welfare for what it does to people not for them. Our church has it's own welfare program & we allow people who use it to contribute in some way - minor work at time or repayment when they can , there is no tab kept it is on a free will basis. But they get to keep their dignity instead of feeling like a "welfare" case. I have no problem with free health care for the poor. The enviorment has plenty of laws to protect it - Mother Earth is stronger than you give her credit. Rich corporations still pay more taxes than any other group, so stop whining - it is unattractive in anyone.
2006-06-16 17:49:00
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answered by Wolfpacker 6
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I see a lot of that faulty logic and I don't think it is coming from right wingers. I think it is coming from Middle Class Americans and that they tend to scapegoat welfare and poverty programs when things are looking bleakest in their own lives.
One of the reasons this happens, however, is when the right-wing media, or a right-wing candidate makes an issue of it, and the middle class follows him like sheep into the frenzied conversation.
One good example of this is Ronald Reagan in the 1980 campaign. He started a scapegoating platform of the Republican Party that was aimed at reforming welfare.
Back in those days, welfare was a mess. Women and disabled people were punished, sanctioned and considered to be cheaters if they went to school. One woman took a typing class at a junior college in California to try to get a job with Apple computer and she lost her welfare benefits because she was going to school. The class was one day a week.
Welfare reform didn't happen until 1996 when Clinton was President. He gave women with children one year to get their GED, learn a skill and get daycare lined up. After that, people realized that people on welfare and disabilities couldn't go to school because of the way the welfare and education grant laws were written.
If you want to talk corporate welfare, you only need to look to Ross Perot, founder of Electronic Data Systems. It was his ability to get government contracts, especially with NASA, which was right in his back yard that made him a billionaire.
By the same token, Dick Cheney, the former CEO of Haliburton and currently the vice president of the U.S. is giving Haliburton a virtual blank check to lead the military into developing infrastructure in Iraq.
The wealthy do not scapegoat welfare and disabled people. They use the poor as a diversion to take the public's attention off the scandalous behavior of corporations and to give the middle class someone to hate so that their behavior looks a whole lot more noble.
2006-06-17 02:28:04
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answered by Anonymous
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I would like to see Health care for all-I think every human should get the care they need. Only Africa and us in the US(I don't know about Mexico) don't have it. And no not all have problems with it. Our government would prefer if you didn't hear that. And ask any one of these countries if they want to lose that benefit--NO. Only the rich complain.
And hello to above post--many elderly and disable do not qualify for Medicaid and they are in every hospital in every state because they can not afford to get medicine. There is not a program for all. If you have a family(kids) or are foreign (because they are new and usually don't have family here and langage barriers for employment) usually they can get help. But the elderly (or 45-65)or disable are at the bottom for help. You are so wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its the Right-wing (most not all)who are spreading the lies. And some Conservatives but mostly Right wing and Liberals.
2006-06-16 18:40:30
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answered by *** The Earth has Hadenough*** 7
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Because they aren't benefiting from those things!!!
Welfare is a ridiculous program/system. I'm not a Right Winger either nor a Left Liberal Dem either.
I don't think the Government should have to give women who have kid ater kid shouldnt get more money just because they have another child & they are on welfare already. They shouldn't be having another child if that's the case!!!
Although I have to say this President & Republican Congress is pretty shady and really ruining our system and morale overall. Among other things.....
2006-06-16 22:48:58
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answered by Blondie* 4
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Because this country is built on people who do for themselves. Has welfare been a success or led to generation after generation of poverty as a life style? Give people just enough to live on but to much for inspire people to do anything to change their situation. If you start working you initially go back a step. Even though in the long run you'll end up ahead. We have free health care. It is called medicare medicaid. They are also a mess.
2006-06-16 17:32:22
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answered by onevint 2
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Because welfare does nothing to lift people out of poverty -- in fact, it makes poverty just tolerable enough that the receiver tends not to bother lifting themselves out of poverty.
You get what you pay for. Free health-care tends to be bad health care. For most Americans, it is far better to simply purchase their own health insurance or self-insure. For welfare types (see above) they have Medicad and already enjoy free health care.
'Right-wingers' do not hate the environment -- they understand that there must be balance. If all humans just killed themselves the planet would quickly recover. Short of such a drastic solution, we must balance the interests of humans with the environment. I'm sorry, reality sucks sometimes.
2006-06-16 18:17:10
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answered by Anonymous
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Because this is not a democracy, this is an oligarchy. It's a way to get your money out of your pocket to the treasury and then from the treasury to the companies and from the companies to the executives who own/run the companies.
And who are these executives? People we elect to office.
You can almost draw a flow chart for your $$:
You ==> US Treasury ==> Defence/oil contracts ==> Executives
And of course these executives control the government, some directly, some indirectly.
2006-06-17 02:58:31
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answered by The_Dark_Knight 4
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They hide behind the guise of giving to the little guy will make him weak and he MUST make it on his own. While giving every national deal to Haliburton to the tune of 1.2 Billion dollars, which is paid for by...the little guy. Envirnment be damned, the world is their playground, hunting? check!. Drilling oil? check! that pesky ozone layer? don't worry! the hurricanes caused by global warming will keep the sun away. But corp welfare, we know what it's called when you sleep with someone for money? GWB's group is the biggest whorehouse in Texas! Also, to anyone that says California is no good for jobs? We supply 1/5th of the COUNTRIES jobs, yep we're just here withering up and dying. That's why Yahoo, Google, Apple, Sun, INtel, and the like are based here, because the job market is soooo bad...:( We like it when stupid people stay away...
2006-06-16 23:29:56
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answered by Sidoney 5
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