1Ti.4:10 For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those that believe........I have been reading the KJV and came accross this verse and its got me puzzled.
2006-06-16 14:27:11 · 18 answers · asked by Hebeholdsu 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
If you are saved or if you are not, The LORD is the savior of all men (people) whether they like it or not, whether they accept it or not. Those that don't like it don't like the people that believe it.
2006-06-16 14:31:21 · answer #1 · answered by Bimpster 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Wijjam's answer sounds good. Back then, the early Christians had a lot of missionary work "labor" to do, and "suffer reproach" means that they got a lot of criticism and disdainful treatment even back then. The "living God" reference was referring to Jesus Christ, who having been resurrected was definitely living and still the second member of the Godhead, or Trinity, if you are more accustomed to that term. I have "Savior" spelled "Saviour" in my King James version but that's just a difference in British and American spelling. The Savior is "especially" the Savior of those that believe because those that believe in Him actually know His true identity as the Son of God, His power and His life mission, whereas those who don't believe in Him are still children of God and will still be given immortality in the Resurrection as a free gift due to the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Hope that helps.
2006-06-16 14:39:30 · answer #2 · answered by Cookie777 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That Lines Up With (Matt. 10:22) ......A Person Who Commits To GOD To Serve GOD Will Suffer Reproach And Be Hated!....Why? ..Just As The Word Of GOD Said, Because We Trust In The Living GOD!
2006-06-16 14:36:51 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The savior of all men. Jesus saved the world. Especially those that believe - because those that believe in grace and the salvation of the world are also free in their hearts and minds from fearing law and sin.
They suffer reproach from the apostles who were still teaching law.
Verses are not notes to us. They are part of a whole letter to someone about something specific. They should not be taken out of context.
2006-06-16 14:35:21 · answer #4 · answered by ruletheworld 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You've been raised on the Message of the faith and have followed sound teaching. Now pass on this counsel to the followers of Jesus there, and you'll be a good servant of Jesus. Stay clear of silly stories that get dressed up as religion. Exercise daily in God—no spiritual flabbiness, please! Workouts in the gymnasium are useful, but a disciplined life in God is far more so, making you fit both today and forever. You can count on this. Take it to heart. This is why we've thrown ourselves into this venture so totally. We're banking on the living God, Savior of all men and women, especially believers.
2006-06-16 14:38:39 · answer #5 · answered by computer_pc_doctor 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It seems pretty straight forward. Maybe you're having trouble with the words "labor and suffer reproach"? it means "hard work and people hating on you." Then it says Jesus is the savior of all men, especially those who believe...I guess he saves christians more then other men.
2006-06-16 14:36:38 · answer #6 · answered by Tim 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In vs. 7 Paul talks about “exercising” toward godliness, In other words we are to work and strive to become a righteous person. That is to strive to become, in practice, (although it is impossible in the flesh), that which God has already bestowed on us (righteousness) if we have accepted Jesus The Christ as our Lord and Savior. In other words we strive and labor to be obedient and suffer reproach (by men) for that reason.
2006-06-16 14:47:52 · answer #7 · answered by david v 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is an argument from the lessor to the greater. The first term for all men (or all kinds of men) is general and means to preserve and defend. It is Gods goodness to all as He gives rain and sunshine etc to all. Paul had been referring to those who will depart from the faith in vs 1-3, then refers to the food God gives to all which we should be thankful for but many are not even though in this way God "saves" them. But He is especially recognized by those who believe as the God who defends and preserves them. These are the ones who have not departed from the faith.
2006-06-16 14:43:04 · answer #8 · answered by beek 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i have a NAS its so easy to understand, and i know ppl think we should all use the OKJ version but one word in there language means something totally different in ours, so this is a good translation...my version says of that verse For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
This is talking about discipline and trying to be Godly instead of living in the flesh
2006-06-16 14:34:24 · answer #9 · answered by Nicole 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I encourage you to get another version besides the KJV. It's obscure language makes it difficult to understand. But Paul's point is that when doing the work God calls us to, we will be criticized, or reproached. Some versions say "reviled."
2006-06-16 14:34:44 · answer #10 · answered by keri gee 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Paul's telling Timothy that the reason they labor and suffer is because of the promise God has given them both right then but also in their future(everlasting life with Him in Heaven).
2006-06-16 14:33:26 · answer #11 · answered by southfloridamullets 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋